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Josh Downs the best WR in college ?

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2021: 101 rec, 1335 yards, 8 TD

2022: 48 rec, 527 yards, 7 TD

Yesterday @Virginia: 15 rec, 166 yards, 1 TD. Added 57 yards on 2 punt returns. Just one week after Downs had 11 catches for 102 yards and 2 TD in UNC's win over Pittsburgh.

5'10" 175 lbs

Basketball and triple jump back ground. 

high-football-IQ.

He is speed, he clocked in at 4.47s 40 and jumped 42-inch vertical as a high school junior. 

I hope Panthers can select him in the 2nd round but his stock is more a late 1st round and maybe continue to up in next weeks. Probably not the first receiver to be call in the draft, but maybe the best ? 

 

 

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No, not the best. One of the top 5? Maybe, but not the best.

Would he help here? Sure.

Should we draft a WR in the first coue rounds.... probably not. 

QB, DE, TE, ILB...  these should all be addressed before WR. I would even rather adding depth to the OL and DL ahead of WR.

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2 hours ago, Chris Smitty said:

2021: 101 rec, 1335 yards, 8 TD

2022: 48 rec, 527 yards, 7 TD

Yesterday @Virginia: 15 rec, 166 yards, 1 TD. Added 57 yards on 2 punt returns. Just one week after Downs had 11 catches for 102 yards and 2 TD in UNC's win over Pittsburgh.

5'10" 175 lbs

Basketball and triple jump back ground. 

high-football-IQ.

He is speed, he clocked in at 4.47s 40 and jumped 42-inch vertical as a high school junior. 

I hope Panthers can select him in the 2nd round but his stock is more a late 1st round and maybe continue to up in next weeks. Probably not the first receiver to be call in the draft, but maybe the best ? 

 

 

Why would you want to use valuable draft capitol to acquire a player at a position pretty obviously not of need for us (DJ looks great, TMJ obviously was being massively hindered by Fhule, and now looks solid), and where solid talent is easily found in later rounds or FA, and scant evidence exists that elite talent correlates highly with playoff success?

We need pass rushers to take the pressure off of Burns and to give us leverage when he becomes a FA. We need to continue to stock our OL with talent because injuries are a real thing in the NFL, and we need another long term solution at safety all more than we need to worry about acquiring the latest bright shiny toy at WR. A top shelf pass catcher at TE wouldn't hurt either. He can be on the field at the same time with DJ and TMJ easier than Downs could.

People get way too focused on WR's and RB's because of fantasy without examining how much they actually contribute to an actual football team's playoff success or thinking about how easy it is to find nearly as good production for far cheaper when looking around the league at those positions. They are both easily replaceable with solid talent. It rarely pays to focus on trying to obtain elite talent there, when other crucial positions have a much steeper drop off in talent from top shelf and matter more to actual winning.

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4 hours ago, Chris Smitty said:

2021: 101 rec, 1335 yards, 8 TD

2022: 48 rec, 527 yards, 7 TD

Yesterday @Virginia: 15 rec, 166 yards, 1 TD. Added 57 yards on 2 punt returns. Just one week after Downs had 11 catches for 102 yards and 2 TD in UNC's win over Pittsburgh.

5'10" 175 lbs

Basketball and triple jump back ground. 

high-football-IQ.

He is speed, he clocked in at 4.47s 40 and jumped 42-inch vertical as a high school junior. 

I hope Panthers can select him in the 2nd round but his stock is more a late 1st round and maybe continue to up in next weeks. Probably not the first receiver to be call in the draft, but maybe the best ? 

 

 

No, he's a small speed, slot like guy. He may end up being good but I can think of two guys on Ohio State's roster who are better, one on Tennessee, two on USC, umm...probably a few others.

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1 hour ago, BIGH2001 said:

Reminds me a little bit of Steve Smith. He is very quick and elusive. 

Steve Smith was built different. He was thicker bodied and had the attitude to go with it. Downs is like Dyami Brown or Jahan Dotson. It's not bad but it almost never translates to a 1 in the NFL.

Give me Marvin Harrison Jr. to pair with DJ Moore.

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2 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Steve Smith was built different. He was thicker bodied and had the attitude to go with it. Downs is like Dyami Brown or Jahan Dotson. It's not bad but it almost never translates to a 1 in the NFL.

Give me Marvin Harrison Jr. to pair with DJ Moore.

Harrison won’t be eligible yet. Next year is the year to try for him. 

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