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10 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Easy you're going to hurt his brain

My brain already hurts reading day in day out that Wilks is a good HC and Corral is better than all the QBs in this draft. Plus I’ll add people saying moral victories are worth more than an actual assets in draft capital 

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

2019: 5 wins / 16 games
2020: 5  wins / 16 games
2021: 5 wins /  17 games
2022 (so far): 3 wins / 11 games

60 total games,18 wins, 50 losses

It's accurate 😕

And literally 2020 is the only season you could even say felt kind of good.  At least there was some hope.  

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The last QB (not named Manning) selected in the top 5 to win a SB for the team that drafted them was Troy Aikman in 1989. Elway would have been the last top 5 QB to win a SB in 1997/1998 if you allow for draft day trades. It took him 15 years to win a SB for the Broncos. 

Hard pass. Trade down.

Jeff George, Drew Bledsoe, Rick Mirer, Heath Shuler, Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance have been all the rest since Troy Aikman's success for the Cowboys.

These are the type of QBs that get you no where and traditional scouting misses on.

 Do you want to add to this list? I know there are some that will continue to hang on to hope for Murray, Burrow, Tua, Lawrence, Wilson, and Lance since they are the newest to the long line of top drafted QB flops. A couple of them may get to McNair, Collins, Ryan, and Newton levels, but they will at best be a 10+ year franchise QB who never wins you the big game against QBs that scouts believed were lesser value QBs coming in to the NFL.

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