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1 hour ago, philit99 said:

Looks like the Broncos think they will lock up Payton today in LA. They expect to give him everything that he wants to make it happen, possibly today. Please note, Walmart has more money than Tepper, not that it would get that ridiculous.

https://www.milehighreport.com/platform/amp/2023/1/17/23558475/sean-payton-rumors-broncos-to-interview-in-los-angeles

But, but, but... it was reported months ago that one of Payton's requirements to return to coaching is a warm location.  I guess all that money can buy a lot of heat in a place like Denver, even at today's rates.

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6 minutes ago, Apex Cat said:

But, but, but... it was reported months ago that one of Payton's requirements to return to coaching is a warm location.  I guess all that money can buy a lot of heat in a place like Denver, even at today's rates.

Would be surprised if he took that job. I could see him going to Houston before I seen him hanging out with Russell.

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2 hours ago, Pantherzilla91 said:


You’re comparing bountygate with drinking and driving and manslaughter?

yes, that’s exactly what i said, except not at all. but since we’re playing the herp derp game, if you look at this from an intent point of view, what Sean Payton did is worse. he intentionally sent people out to injure other people for his personal gain. he knew what he was doing, he kept doing it, and has never admitted fault nor shown any remorse. he is a sociopath.

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34 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

yes, that’s exactly what i said, except not at all. but since we’re playing the herp derp game, if you look at this from an intent point of view, what Sean Payton did is worse. he intentionally sent people out to injure other people for his personal gain. he knew what he was doing, he kept doing it, and has never admitted fault nor shown any remorse. he is a sociopath.

If people thought old legends were avoiding the team under rhule imagine what they’d have to say about hiring a HC who actively tried to end their careers…no way they sign this dirtbag 

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2 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Because us as a starved fanbase are so eager to have an offensive minded coach that we are willing to hire a FIRST YEAR offensive coordinator from the LIONS who worked under GASE, and has 10+ years of being on losing seasons. 
 

Nobody sees any red flags here because “He’s from the Carolinas” and might be the next “Sean McVay”.

How many fugging “next Sean McVays” has there been now??

I clearly remember Mr. Scot and everyone else hyping up Nathaniel Hackett last year and that went straight in the shitter. 
 

I guess in two years when we have the 10th ranked offense and 32nd ranked defense with consecutive 4-13 seasons we will find the “Next Sean McVay” then.

We were a bottom third defense in yards allowed and a bottom half defense in points this year and our total defense numbers regressed a lot from the previous season and even from the first 6 games of the season.  With Wilks a super conservative defensive coach at the helm.  I would at least like to have an innovative offensive coach if you're going to put up bottom third defensive numbers as a defensive coach. 

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Ok, one final thought for the "no one has won two with a second team" crowd ...

McVay - Hasn't had a chance yet

Bruce Arians - Hasn't had a chance yet

Andy Reid - Hasn't had a chance yet

Bill Belichick - Hasn't had a chance yet

Doug Pederson - Currently in the Playoffs

Gary Kubiak - Hasn't had a chance yet

Pete Carroll - Hasn't had a chance yet

John Harbaugh - Hasn't had a chance yet

Tom Coughlin - Hasn't had a chance yet

Mike McCarthy - Currently in the Playoffs

Sean Payton - Hasn't has a chance yet

Mike Tomlin - Hasn't had a chance yet

Tony Dungy - Hasn't had a chance yet

Bill Cowher - Hasn't had a chance yet

Jon Gruden - FAILED

Brian Billick - Hasn't had a chance yet

Dick Vermeil - FAILED

Mike Shanahan - FAILED

Mike Holmgren - FAILED

Barry Switzer - Never had a second chance

George Seifert - FAILED

Jimmy Johnson - FAILED

Joe Gibbs - Never had a second chance

Bill Parcells - FAILED

Bill Walsh - Never had a second chance

Mike Ditka - FAILED

Tom Flores - FAILED

Chuck Noll - Never had a second chance

Tom Landry - Never had a second chance

John Madden - Never had a second chance

Don Shula - Never had a second chance

Don McCafferty - FAILED

Hank Stram - FAILED

Weeb Ewbank - Never had a second chance

Vince Lombardi - FAILED

 

So the question is ... would you have considered giving guys like Vince Lombardi, Hank Stram, Don McCafferty, Tom Flores, Mike Ditka, Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, Mike Holmgren, Mike Shanahan, Dick Vermeil, and Jon Gruden a chance to coach your team? Or said ... be gone, retread!

Yes, I left George Seifert out of that last paragraph lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

We were a bottom third defense in yards allowed and a bottom half defense in points this year and our total defense numbers regressed a lot from the previous season and even from the first 6 games of the season.  With Wilks a super conservative defensive coach at the helm.  I would at least like to have an innovative offensive coach if you're going to put up bottom third defensive numbers as a defensive coach. 

I’m not saying Wilks is the answer. I don’t want him. People keep assuming I do because I don’t want Johnson. I just want an OC that has more than one year experience and/or has been apart of some successful groups.

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1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Ex-Saints and Panthers safety Roman Harper was on some Charlotte radio show and said Sean Payton will be acquired by the Panthers for a 2023 4th round pick and 2024 1st round pick. 

Giving a division rival a first round pick for a freaking coach would be the epitome of stupid.

l’ll never stop being a fan of the team, but if Tepper does that, he’ll have lost my support for him as our owner forever unfortunately.

No, just no

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