PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick

[Basbear]

About 9 out of 10 of these super trade ups have failed and the huddle is still like YOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO??????

 

The success ones also had andy reid and perfect storm bills org happening.....

 

For the love of god, this panthers team is NOT one rookie QB away. I get the last five years and all,  but bros......this is not the smart way.

[frankw]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not opposed to it if we're completely sold on someone but it's an all in move. It would be the end of Fitts if it didn't work out and it might lead to Reich going out like he did with the Colts - decent coaching but ultimately failing to get over the hump.

 

Idk about Reich but this is just about it for Fitterer regardless. He needs to hit on a QB. This is just as risky as paying Carr 30 million a year. Either way he's staring down the barrel.

[TheSpecialJuan]

6 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Look at it logically- Chicago spent the last decade trading up for a QB, and now they have the #1 pick. Brilliant!!!

I have a feeling that by the time Chicago finishes their QB evaluations they're gonna come to the conclusion that there are 2 maybe 3 QB's in this draft class that are better than Justin Fields.

I would not be surprised if they don't trade out and simply take Stroud/Young/Levis 

Edited February 21, 2023 by TheSpecialJuan

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Basbear said:

About 9 out of 10 of these super trade ups have failed and the huddle is still like YOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO??????

The success ones also had andy reid and perfect storm bills org happening.....

For the love of god, this panthers team is NOT one rookie QB away. I get the last five years and all,  but bros......this is not the smart way.

Some people don't care about the smart way. They want the bold way.

You know what being super bold and ballsy without being smart gets you?

A college coach with full control on a seven year 63 million dollar contract

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, frankw said:

Folks wanted those meaningless wins now that it's time to look at the draft it's all...

Wilks is a leader of man or something.   

[Basbear]

@Bear Hands had a super hopuim post about chief crackhead irsay trades his empire for the #1. 

Texans pick a QB afterwards.

DE and CB follows(or ____ )

thats leaves old buddy, old pal John Schneider.  finesserererererer is still holding onto blackmail texts, pics, and emails...... Fair trade happens and CJ Stroud is the new demi-god....

huddle need to fucous their energy on that, plus add in witchcraft as well......  get on it you "trade up at all cost/all future 1st+ mids" clowns....

Edited February 21, 2023 by Basbear

[Jon Snow]

42 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Not only are they the best evaluators we've seen, it's a group of the best coaches at the most important position. 

Very little reason to not feel good about whatever they do.

I agree. I also think that this group doesn't feel they have to get the #1 pick at all costs in order to succeed. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, this false notion that you either have to make some kind of ridiculous deal or you're stuck with someone like Darnold Is kinda silly.

There are a load of options. You don't just have to go to one of two extremes.

What options? Carr? Ryan Tannehill? Jimmy G?

That's the team-building equivalent to running a prevent defense with 2:00 left in the 4th quarter when you're up by 2.

[SCO96]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I agree. I also think that this group doesn't feel they have to get the #1 pick at all costs in order to succeed. 

I was just about to post the same thing Jon. Everyone seems to be saying that they'll have confidence in our staff "if they decide to move up grab a QB in the top 3". I wonder if they'll have the same confidence if they decide to stay out at #9...or dare I say it...trade back for more picks to fill more holes?

I think you, me, and bunch of others would still feel very optimistic about the upcoming season. But, I think half of our fellow Huddlers would have panic attacks if  Carolina doesn't move up to take Stroud or Young.

[SCO96]

3 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

What options? Carr? Ryan Tannehill? Jimmy G?

That's the team-building equivalent to running a prevent defense with 2:00 left in the 4th quarter when you're up by 2.

Those guys aren't studs. We all agree on that.  Yet, even you will agree that as bad as the NFC South was last year, we probably would have won our division with any of those guys starting the majority of the games. We can probably win the division with one of them this year. 

[onmyown]

the wayI see it is I think a lot of people are confusing it being worth it, value, and competency.

Saying it never works out (Lance) is a competency issue, not a ‘not worth it’ scenario

Does anyone disagree a franchise qb is worth whatever? That if we could go back in time and part with an extra first for Herbert we would? I think everyone agreees on that

so the question is do you trust Reich and Fit to be able to determine if there is a franchise QB there and have the COMPETENCY to make that call and pull the trigger…and then develop him into a winning QB

if you don’t, then honestly you shouldn’t really support them even being here imo

that’s where I am at…Fit scares the poo out of me and Reichs recent calls (Wentz) scare me too, but at the same time if they swear they can do it they will have 3 years anyways and should be given the leeway to do so…again what’s the point of hiring them if not?

Edited February 22, 2023 by onmyown

[top dawg]

59 minutes ago, Basbear said:

About 9 out of 10 of these super trade ups have failed and the huddle is still like YOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO??????

 

The success ones also had andy reid and perfect storm bills org happening.....

 

For the love of god, this panthers team is NOT one rookie QB away. I get the last five years and all,  but bros......this is not the smart way.

I mean, I understand what you're saying, and I agree with it the large majority of time. But, if they believe there is a legit long term answer at QB, well...

I'm not saying that I believe it, but I don't have years of scouting and coaching experience like this staff. If they do it, I'll have to believe that they're right (until they're not).

See, sometimes what makes sense most of the time, doesn't make sense all the time. They had just better be right.

[GOAT]

if you're scared mf go to church

[Basbear]

18 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I mean, I understand what you're saying, and I agree with it the large majority of time. But, if they believe there is a legit long term answer at QB, well...

I'm not saying that I believe it, but I don't have years of scouting and coaching experience like this staff. If they do it, I'll have to believe that they're right (until they're not).

See, sometimes what makes sense most of the time, doesn't make sense all the time. They had just better be right.

Its not without holes, just as the numbers keep rising to space......some other methods has to take place. Take Cam, good example or bad example, he "lasted" 8 years. In the theory above, you are paying them CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP until late 20s. Then you get the three 1sts, 3rd, 5th, and couple players....and find the next 7 year savior.. The team you can build is 4x better*unless its a elite of elite*. The team is built with young talent as well. 

Personally I believe its a GREAT idea......just get super screwy if you think Joe Burrow is a 7 year planned player(he did already have acl).

Some other team can print those 55+ milllion checks............. I prefer paying those first 5 years rookie contract and if if if hes got the goods and SB is there= tag that arse........... it blows up, sucks, TAG THAT ARSE again and trade him for the watson special OR go again and trade him the following......You remain young and cap friendly. Your whole team/depth is miles better. 

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by Basbear