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Bears spoke to 3 teams at the combine about the first overall pick: know they can get 1sts in 2024 and 2025

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3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

So because the Williams / Maybe picks aren't for sale in 2024 we should trade 3 first round picks this year for lesser prospects?

Make it make sense.

This was obviously for the crowd saying do nothing and just wait for next years draft, but you knew that.

On a complete side note. I remember when Oldham used to be an extremely hard away game for any opponent. Consistently a top team on the second division, making noise in the FA cup etc. What happened? I’m not as close to it as I used to be in the 90s.

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Will you please follow the context. It was referring to a post saying wait until next year for Williams and Maye. I’m saying that isn’t an option. 

It was in context - why are people advocating we trade away 3 years of first round picks for lesser prospects?

If any of the current crop were seen as franchise QBs the Bears wouldn't be trading out. 

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Just now, OldhamA said:

It was in context - why are people advocating we trade away 3 years of first round picks for lesser prospects?

If any of the current crop were seen as franchise QBs the Bears wouldn't be trading out. 

It was in response to wait until next year for Williams or Maye. That option isn’t realistic. I’m not saying we have to trade 3 firsts. You have some serious tunnel vision man…

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30 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

It was in context - why are people advocating we trade away 3 years of first round picks for lesser prospects?

If any of the current crop were seen as franchise QBs the Bears wouldn't be trading out. 

First, technically it would be trading away two years of first round picks, as we'd be receiving back a first round pick this year.

Second, you assume the Bears can accurately grade a QB, and would overcome their sunk-cost fallacy and make the "logical" decision to move on from Fields.

Third, it's not about how good the prospects actually are, it's how NFL teams perceive how good they are. Caleb Williams may be the next Mahomes, or he may be the next Zach Wilson. But if teams perceive that he's the next Mahomes, then that top pick is not going to be for sale, regardless of how good he actually ends up being. There's no perception with this class that there's a Manning/Luck/Lawrence prospect, which is why the pick is being talked about as up for grabs.

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1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

The Athletic Bills writer has a pretty swervy mock draft recently without a trade happening and we miss on the top-4.  We land:

Jordan Addison WR, Nolan Smith EGDE/LB & Hendon Hooker QB, Calijah Kancey DT

https://theathletic.com/4291178/2023/03/10/buffalo-bills-mock-draft-offseason/

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Addison at 9 should get fitt fired

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1 hour ago, Martin said:

I think it is absolutely normal to be a bit of a homer and defend your guys. But would you really draft him in the top 10?

I’ve stated countless times dating back to last season I would draft Stroud first and Young second. I would be fine with drafting any of the four guys in the top ten. How does that make me a homer?

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10 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

The Athletic Bills writer has a pretty swervy mock draft recently without a trade happening and we miss on the top-4.  We land:

Jordan Addison WR, Nolan Smith EGDE/LB & Hendon Hooker QB, Calijah Kancey DT

https://theathletic.com/4291178/2023/03/10/buffalo-bills-mock-draft-offseason/

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If we can’t get a QB in the first round I will be riding that trade back wagon. 

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15 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

I’ve stated countless times dating back to last season I would draft Stroud first and Young second. I would be fine with drafting any of the four guys in the top ten. How does that make me a homer?

I didn’t say you wanting him in the top 10 made you a homer. I said defending your guys is very common, a lot of people do that. I’m a Tar Heel and I defend UNC players as well. But that doesn’t mean I’d take them in the top 10. Good grief people are sensitive, I don’t think I could have written my question any nicer or clearer.

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1 minute ago, Martin said:

I didn’t say you wanting him in the top 10 made you a homer. I said defending your guys is very common, a lot of people do that. I’m a Tar Heel and I defend UNC players as well. But that doesn’t mean I’d take them in the top 10. Good grief people are sensitive, I don’t think I could have written my question any nicer or clearer.

You literally used homer in your post quoting me. No need to spazz out. A lot of people have Will in the top 10 so I am far from alone. 

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54 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

You literally used homer in your post quoting me. No need to spazz out. A lot of people have Will in the top 10 so I am far from alone. 

Hahaha, I inferred that everyone is a homer and I passed no judgement. These are two separate things. One is being a homer and defending your guy against “accusations” from other posters. A completely different thing is how you rate said player I the draft. There is no spazzing or judgement, I was genuinely curious how you rate him. But you do you man.

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