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New trade down theory coming out of League circles

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This makes the most sense for the Bears IMO.  

But if I'm the Texans, I would have to be 100% convinced the difference between Young and Stroud warrants giving up what they would probably have to to secure #1.  

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The problem  that could arise for Chicago is that they may not net as much capital if they move to 2 and then we just trade to the 3 with the Cards. It'd be a gamble because  I'm sure to trade to 2 won't net them that much  in return from Houston. 

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It depends on our QB rankings, I'd say they'd need to have this ironed out for both moves before they hit the Texans trade.

If they go to 2 it could reduce the amount the colts want to pay and they could potentially end up with no future firsts because I dont see the Texans giving one either. They'd need us or the Colts to be game to move to 2 with the appropriate package to really hit the trade with the Texans.

I'll be a little surprised if the Texans are that motivated to move up a pick.

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10 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

The problem  that could arise for Chicago is that they may not net as much capital if they move to 2 and then we just trade to the 3 with the Cards. It'd be a gamble because  I'm sure to trade to 2 won't net them that much  in return from Houston. 

Yeah, what would that even look like?  Has a team ever traded from 2 to 1?  Im sure its probably happened but I cannot recall.  I would think it would only net Chicago maybe a 2nd and something like a future 3rd or 4th?

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4 minutes ago, joemac said:

Yeah, what would that even look like?  Has a team ever traded from 2 to 1?  Im sure its probably happened but I cannot recall.  I would think it would only net Chicago maybe a 2nd and something like a future 3rd or 4th?

Bears traded from 3 to 2 for Trubisky and got like two 3rds and a fourth. Feels like it could just net out where our package would reduce close to what the Texans pay.

So only way it really makes sense is if we have a limit we are willing to pay we refuse to go over and we have 2 QBs we like a lot. The Bears could reduce the cost to move to 9 via the Texans package to move to 1 or something, and then we could align on value.

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this would effectively be a three team trade, if Chicago and Houston agreed to a deal there would already be a handshake agreement in place for a pick swap of 2 and 9.

We couldn’t “screw them over,” the deals would be announced likely one after the other

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5 minutes ago, joemac said:

Yeah, what would that even look like?  Has a team ever traded from 2 to 1?  Im sure its probably happened but I cannot recall.  I would think it would only net Chicago maybe a 2nd and something like a future 3rd or 4th?


They’ll be motivated if they know #1 is going to someone else. 

For the bears, they could get a 2nd this year from the Texans plus a 1st (next year), 2nd this year, maybe a 2nd next year from us.

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8 minutes ago, stan786 said:

It depends on our QB rankings, I'd say they'd need to have this ironed out for both moves before they hit the Texans trade.

If they go to 2 it could reduce the amount the colts want to pay and they could potentially end up with no future firsts because I dont see the Texans giving one either. They'd need us or the Colts to be game to move to 2 with the appropriate package to really hit the trade with the Texans.

I'll be a little surprised if the Texans are that motivated to move up a pick.

Houston caring enough about having a specific guy is the biggest obstacle here, but there is a bit of motivation for them do so:

scewing Indy over.

they take a guy, we take a guy, colts get the scraps

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