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Panthers sign Bengals TE Hayden Hurst


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58 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Offensive weapons…I mean Hurst is ok but he doesn’t change that or even close. This franchise will doom our new QB if they don’t get him a WR. It’s going to be bad, really bad. 

That’s said it’s really the only major need with oline depth and LB next. I wouldn’t be mad if Fit moved up back into the first for someone. Even then we need vets.

Yeah, I don’t think we are done with FA or trading. I’m just saying it is shaping up nicely for us. It’s heading in that direction and it’s not far away. 

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2 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

Not to be a Debbie Downer but there’s some truth. Dalton, Hurst and Thielin and even Jamal Williams don’t make us close to a scary offense. None of them can be the guy who can still do a lot when the D focuses on them. No matter which FA WRs we sign, there’s no one who can go against the #1 CB or be the doubled guy and perform well. DJ wasn’t elite but no FA is close to him.

You cant fill all holes on a team in one offseason.  Sometimes you have to use a bandaid for a season or two.

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2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We have the 2nd richest owner in football.

 

I think we will be fine watching him pay Nuk.


We are fans we don't pay the players bro. If you scared go to church!

Do you understand there is a salary cap?  The only aspect you can throw your money around with is coaching and Tepper has said as much.

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3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

You'd have to pay me a lot to leave the Bengals tbh. I'd want one of the best QBs in the league throwing me the ball if I was a skill position player.

Burrows is a really good QB, but there's a lot of talent for him to choose from. Hayden will get a lot more touches in Carolina. It's nice to be the top dog.

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He’s gone over 500 yards once in his career, he gives you 300-350 yards a year most years. 
 

It’s better than Thomas for sure for he’s not terrific. 
 

I’ll take any starter upgrade I can get so this is positive news but it’s nothing to write home about. 

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