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Adam Schefter: Bryce Young is believed to be favorite for #1 for the Panthers right now


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As I said before. I don’t care if it is Young or Stroud. I think both could be franchise QBs. Stroud will be the more traditional QB that I think Reich would be more drawn to. He is more plug and play. 
Young is special and if it wasn’t for his height I think he would be really special. Any team that takes him will have to build the offense around his height. 

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37 minutes ago, w280sax said:

That's an odd quote from schefter since sf didn't ultimately take Mac Jones.  I'm not sure I completely understand his point.

Think he is saying when they initially traded up the 49ers initially intended to get Mac Jones (which was the rumor)…..and over time ended up liking Lance more and changed their minds to him. 

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35 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If the Panthers made this trade for Bryce Young after the combine, then I doubt they change their minds after his pro day.  Young is much better than Jones.

There was a comment made by Reich (I think) that (to me) is the biggest tell.  He called the QB a "point guard" which is probably the best way to describe Patrick Mahomes.   The QB who most closely draws that comparison in this draft is Bryce Young. 

I see Young, and I see Stroud.  It all depends on what you are going to ask the QB to do.

Counselor, I will stipulate that everything you posted here is admissible to the court.  The size issue for Young is a not an insignificant risk to me, making Stroud less of a risk.  Not the better QB, just less of an injury risk.  

"May you live in interesting times."

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5 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Charlie Campbell is the only one to watch imo. He has been on the money 100% for a very long time now on who the Panthers are going to draft. Right now, he says Young, but it could change.

Oof Kyler Murray comparison. No way we want him running the ball. The man is bound to get decleated sooner or later. See what happened to Darnold against the Falcons.

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Just now, bythenbrs said:

Counselor, I will stipulate that everything you posted here is admissible to the court.  The size issue for Young is a non-significant risk to me, making Stroud less of a risk.  Not the better QB, just less of an injury risk.  

"May you live in interesting times."

I am confused.  I go by one rule, and it requires being honest with myself:  I SUCK at picking QBs transitioning from college to the NFL---I am terrible at it. 

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42 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

Adam Schefter will probably go back and forth on his prediction between Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud from one week to the next.

I am still holding firm in my belief the Panthers select C.J. Stroud because he is the type QB that Reich has always liked.

However, if I am wrong, i will not be disappointed with the selection of Bryce Young. 

C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young are both potential franchise QB's, so it's a win-win, regardless of which one they chose.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Oof Kyler Murray comparison. No way we want him running the ball. The man is bound to get decleated sooner or later. See what happened to Darnold against the Falcons.

Right--if we take Young, we have to maintain an offensive line like the Eagles this year, the Saints of the Brees years--he cannot run, he needs to check down or throw it away.  He can move within the pocket (Brees was the best I have ever seen at that) but he cannot take a hit.  Young may have the best intro into the NFL, but I just see Stroud as having the most successful, longest career.  Fun stuff to analyze.

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1 minute ago, KatsAzz said:

Adam Schefter will probably go back and forth on his prediction between Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud from one week to the next.

I am still holding firm in my belief the Panthers select C.J. Stroud because he is the type QB that Reich has always liked.

However, if I am wrong, i will not be disappointed with the selection of Bryce Young. 

C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young are both potential franchise QB's, so it's a win-win, regardless of which one they chose.

If you read that article in the Panthers.com, the Georgia Players seem to heap the most praise on Stroud--and they should know.  They talked about Young's personality--and I think he is probably a great guy--but they described Stroud as calm, unflappable, accurate.  What else do you want in an NFL QB? 

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