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Cynthia Frelund with an interesting analytics look at CJ Stroud and Bryce Young

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5 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

3.02 seconds in the NFL is an eternity to hold on to the ball. Add in his lack of arm strength and you're shrinking the field vertically and horizontally depending on the hash as well.

If I remember right, the league average is around 2.75 seconds.  Darnold's time to throw last year was north of 3 seconds, so our line was providing that time.  But, if opposing defenses conclude that the QB NEEDS that time to function, they are going to dial up the pressure.

As far as our rather impressive protection (time to throw) number, that was probably a function of not only our OL, but our tendency to be a run-first offense.  That semi-constant run threat gives pass rushers an initial pause which can be the difference between 2.75 seconds and 3 or better.

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Drafting young basically limits your playbook on offense to compensate for his size in trade for some schoolyard plays when everything breaks down.

Stroud plays pro style ball and the playbook will not suffer.

If anything we should be deciding between Stroud and Richardson.

 

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38 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Drafting young basically limits your playbook on offense to compensate for his size in trade for some schoolyard plays when everything breaks down.

Stroud plays pro style ball and the playbook will not suffer.

If anything we should be deciding between Stroud and Richardson.

 

Which there are rumors of just that. 

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13 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Drafting young basically limits your playbook on offense to compensate for his size in trade for some schoolyard plays when everything breaks down.

Stroud plays pro style ball and the playbook will not suffer.

If anything we should be deciding between Stroud and Richardson.

Deciding between Stroud and Richardson means picking Stroud.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Deciding between Stroud and Richardson means picking Stroud.

Im not sure how deciding between Stroud and Young results in a different outcome then. One guy has the tools for the NFL, the other doesn't. At least AR has the tools he just needs polish.

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29 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Im not sure how deciding between Stroud and Young results in a different outcome then. One guy has the tools for the NFL, the other doesn't. At least AR has the tools he just needs polish.

We're not in a position to be "polishing" anyone.

That's a project for a team who has someone that can start for a couple of years while you're waiting on the rookie.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're not in a position to be "polishing" anyone.

That's a project for a team who has someone that can start for a couple of years while you're waiting on the rookie.

I don’t understand why give up that much stuff to move up.. Only to draft a project??

Why draft a guy you have to fix when 2 guys at the top are ready day 1.. No assembly required??

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2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I don’t understand why give up that much stuff to move up.. Only to draft a project??

Why draft a guy you have to fix when 2 guys at the top are ready day 1.. No assembly required??

I don't think we did.

Have a really tough time imagining us drafting Richardson or Levis...

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16 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

If I remember right, the league average is around 2.75 seconds.  Darnold's time to throw last year was north of 3 seconds, so our line was providing that time.  But, if opposing defenses conclude that the QB NEEDS that time to function, they are going to dial up the pressure.

As far as our rather impressive protection (time to throw) number, that was probably a function of not only our OL, but our tendency to be a run-first offense.  That semi-constant run threat gives pass rushers an initial pause which can be the difference between 2.75 seconds and 3 or better.

I also remember Darnold getting crushed a few times waiting so long...can't wait to see Young get bear hugged by a 6'5 340 lb dude.

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On 3/31/2023 at 8:46 AM, rebelrouser said:

Please. He may not be the best choice at 1 but a bust? He may get injured but come one. His decision making speed, field vision, and accuracy mean he no likely at all to be a bust. That person is Will Levis.  

So he is basically what we like to call a “glass cannon” very good gun/arm, but crappy armor/body& weight

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