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8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Lance for Corral. Straight up. They're ready to give up on Lance. We're ready to give up on Corral.

A big part of why is that he can't get the offense down, even after three years.

I don't think introducing him to a new one is gonna produce better (or quicker) results.

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2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Remember many many Panthers fans that were upset and angry we took Derrick Brown over him.

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Lots of people here, including totally unbiased Clempsin fans, had a hard on for this guy when it was pretty obvious his game ain’t gonna translate to anything special in the league. He’s a football player and can maybe find a niche as joker type of player but wow what a big miss. The Clemson defense busts continue. 

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9 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

This one is crazy. A 7th! He hasn't lived up to where he was drafted, but I didn't think he fell off this much.

I thought the last two years he’d been decent. He’s had 200+ tackles the past two years and 5.5 sacks/3 INTs/14 PDs. He’s not a game changer but seems more like Arizona might be dumping him so they don’t have to worry about his next contract/5th year option. That team is a mess. Giants likely got a good one year rental and can decide after the year if they want to keep him.

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12 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

That 2021 QB class was supposed to be special and so far it’s turning it to be dud city.

Fields has had a great camp and finally has weapons around him. Lawrence has gotten better from year one to two. Lance should have never been drafted where he was. Wilson has looked good in preseason. Mac Jones was always the high floor, low ceiling guy and looks just like that in New England. 
 

Wilson would be getting another chance to start if not for AR. 

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8 minutes ago, Varking said:

Fields has had a great camp and finally has weapons around him. Lawrence has gotten better from year one to two. Lance should have never been drafted where he was. Wilson has looked good in preseason. Mac Jones was always the high floor, low ceiling guy and looks just like that in New England. 
 

Wilson would be getting another chance to start if not for AR. 

I think you are spot on with that assessment.  Lance was (grossly) overdrafted.  It was not a risk, it was an all-out gamble.  When the 49ers made the trade for the pick, I thought they would grab Fields and maybe Jones (which would have also been a gross overdraft).

Wilson looked like a bust but may be catching on and Rodgers buys the Jets some time to figure that out.  Jones is what he was thought to be coming out.  Hoodie may have had visions of him quietly being Brady-light, so there may be some disappointment there but that would be squarely on lofty expectations.

Lance stands alone right now as the guy who looks to be on the outside looking in pretty quickly.

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