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Simms top 40 QB's


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14 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Lot of scouts had Richardson #1, CJ #2 and Young #3. 

 

I'll also add that if Young was 6-2 or taller and weighed 230ish, that wouldn't be the case. He'd be a clear cut #1 most years with prototype size 

Maybe on madden.

But in the NFL.  Little to none did.

 

”Affer talking to all my sources with all the teams across the league.  There is a Consensus QB1 in this draft (Bryce)”

- Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL scout, current NFL draft insider for NFL network etc

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16 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

All of those receivers have had locker room episodes, sidelines eruptions, or cussed out their QB in front of the team.

 

The definition of diva is subjective, but the behaviors all of the above have shown… are diva like in my opinion. 

I do think the diva WR era is a recognizable era/window in the NFL.   I could see it returning though.  Especially as the league continues to become a passing league, social media, personal brand building etc. 

 

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1 hour ago, ncfan said:

 

I was pretty sure Anderson was going to be drafted early, but I agree with Simms that Anderson isn't as good of a prospect as he was built up to be.  I think if the Cardinals scheme him to the QB he will put up good numbers.  But if they expect him to beat tackles on his own week in and week out, they are going to be disappointed.

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1 hour ago, SazmoRanger said:

I disagree. At least USC had Carson Palmer who actually had a pretty good career. Sure he’s not a HOFer, but he had 10+ year career in the NFL as a starter. Ohio State hasn’t produced a QB of that caliber AT ALL, in any round. 
 

Either way, it’s pretty interesting to have two power house schools like that who practically never produce any NFL talent at the QB position.  

Palmer was decent but Leinart, Sanchez and Darnold have been terrible and were all drafted higher. Jury is still out on Fields, so he and Palmer potentially cancel each other out. 

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14 hours ago, CRA said:

Chris Simms had Zach Wilson ahead of Trevor Lawrence.  Mond ahead of Fields. 

Simms has always embraced throwing rankings out meant to generate clicks 

Exactly.  Did you see his edge rankings for this draft?  He entirely throws stuff out there to get attention.   Anyone who thinks AR is going to be a better qb than Young this coming season are probably pushing for clicks

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2 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

I’m not mad at all. It’s just a silly thing to say. It’s serves zero relevance to actuality and it’s assumption that can’t be validated.

Somebody said Bryce was the #1 QB in college. I pointed out Williams was better. So it was relevant to the conversation. 

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6 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Tom Brady cussed out his teammates and refs his entire career.

 

Nobody called him a diva. 

 

So you basically think most of the players in the NFL are divas because those actions happen every day. It's football bro did you not play in high school?

we dont have to see eye to eye here.... and MANY people called Brady a diva.. 

 

Relax.

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