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Corral deserves a fair shot


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2 hours ago, grateflday said:

I think they NFL should allow teams to carry 3 QBs and not have the 3rd one count against the 53 man roster.  

They really should. That's the one position you can't really plug and play anyone your bring in off the street. And as we saw in the NFCCG, an injury to both can happen quickly and there is no way to recover. 

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I'd love to see Corral get some premium reps in the preseason. Ideally I think Bryce should play a quarter with the starters, Dalton play maybe 1 series and Corral play the rest of the game. Don't send Corral out there only with the 5th string offensive line and receivers. Give him some meaningful reps with guys like TMJ and Mingo

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Sometimes that third QB is a necessity. A lot of teams have been running lean there for years and it hasn't bitten them.

Then San Francisco gets knocked down to their 3rd stringer and he plays lights out for a considerable time and the league wakes up. And then that terrible playoff loss San Fran had when they lost all of their QBs from the bench and had to try and send CMC in... Suddenly a lot of fringe-level QBs got a second chance at life.

Even if Corral doesn't end up with a jersey at the end of camp, we need to get him out there during pre-season to get an idea of whether to keep his number on file for emergencies. 

(And this isn't a sneaky shot at our smallish QB... just the reality of the game).

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4 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:

Who would be the 4th QB 👀 

I can only say who it won't be......pretty much anybody who wore a Panther jersey prior to this year. 

Whether we are going to carry two or three, we are pretty much in a textbook scenario.  We have a first round draft choice penciled in as a starter, a vet who realizes his starting days are behind him but can still contribute, and another young guy who may be able to work into being the backup. 

Ideally, we would have a better idea who Corral is, but you-know-who torpedoed that idea.

Now we need to break from our tradition and not stop.  If Corral suddenly looks like he could start, find out what someone would trade for him after this season or next (while still on his rookie deal), sign another "past his prime" vet, and draft another potential #2. 

If Corral winds up having been Rhuled out of any hope, the plan is the same without the trade unless there is somebody out there who believes otherwise of him.

All that assumes Young will live up to his billing, but I think we can say his approach is a lot more like Peyton Manning than Jamarcus Russell, so we can run with the assumption until proven otherwise.

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On 5/20/2023 at 4:03 AM, Wundrbread33 said:

Anyone rooting for a guy on our roster to fail should be ignored. 
 

Saying he has a low chance of success is fine and realistic.

Actively shitting on the guy, hoping he is cut…mouth breather thinking. 
 

The better he is, the better our team is. We have insurance if Young goes down and/or we have a guy to trade for assets if he succeeds. 

This is the proper thinking.  Corral has many tools that could help him succeed in this league.  Rhule did us no favors last year by ignoring his chance and put him on the field without much opportunity for success.

My hope is that he earns a spot on this team and becomes a viable backup to Young.  We hope Young never gets hurt but he's not invincible to injury.  It will be nice to know if something did happen to Young we aren't scrambling again for a QB.  

Many of you know I have been a supporter of Corral. My reasoning is I believe he has all the tools to be successful in the NFL. I believe with proper coaching he'll be a solid backup and as you said hopefully good enough that when the time comes, we can get some value out of him.

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The only sane answer here is to put Corral on the field this offseason and let him compete.  There is literally zero down side to that.  What if he beats out Young or just looks like a quality QB?  No!  I don't think it's likely!  Completely unlikely.  However, what if he did?  

You can instantly recoup some draft capital for whichever QB you choose to offload.  Brock Purdy just showed us that no one has any clue about QB's.  If you have a young, relatively proven guy you can get capital for him.  How much do you think the 49ers could get for Purdy once he proves his elbow is healed?

There is absolutely no reason to get rid of Corral, and every reason to cheer him on.  No one knows the outcome, and success can only benefit the team.  Where is the problem?

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