A little Steve Wilks news

[ForJimmy]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Now you see what it feels like when people say Wilks doesn't deserve to be a HC.

 

1 bad season with a bad team does not make his career.

 

 

He has never had a good one though. I’m ok with ignoring that season as Cardinals HC, but that just makes him unproven. You need a good offensive mind to keep up in today’s NFL. I get the players backed him, but that usually happens with an interim HC because if they don’t and he gets the job it makes it very awkward. Players were backing Rhule until he got fired. 

[Mol3m4n]

People still wanting Wilks after that Tampa game is wild to me. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I don't care who interviews him. I just wanted him to be our HC.

 

 

he was and he blew it

 

He is not head coach material in 2023 version of the nfl.  Early 90's sure he may do fine but we already hired a guy with wilks skillset and his name was Ron.  it doesnt work, if it did teams would be lined up to at least interview him, spoiler alert.........they didnt

[frankw]

Anyone that actually longs for another version of Ron Rivera is beyond convincing.

Hell the players once loved him and they also loved a guy named Marty Hurney too.

[frankw]

You don't hire someone as your head coach because you want to do them a favor. That's certainly no better than Tepper and Hurney falling in love with Matt Rhule over meatballs. And if you are going to cite unstable ownership as the reason it was unfair one candidate was fired while overlooking whatever the hell Jim Irsay is doing in Indianapolis. Well you don't have a leg to stand on.

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't continue this discussion you fail to understand that the Rooney Rhule is a real thing.

I sure as hell hope not

[ForJimmy]

35 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Nobody was backing Rhule. You had players question the direction of the team Shaq and Reddick specifically. To say Wilks doesn't deserve to be a HC with such little on his resume is just unfair. If you don't see that then there is no need to continue this discussion.

Rhule shouldn't even be mentioned he was just not suited for the NFL. He even mentioned that during a interview with Cowherd.

https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article266812766.html
 

They literally backed Rhule while he was getting booed in October. I get it you like Wilks as a HC and that’s perfectly ok. I was simply explaining why some of us preferred an offensive minded HC. I

[Aussie Tank]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I had (still have) a load of respect for Wilks. Heck, I liked Rivera too.

But with both of them, there came a point where I just said "this isn't working".

Exactly right I don’t see that type of coach getting a team over the hump constantly. 

[onmyown]

Wilks the dinosaur thought PJ Walker was better than Darnold…

no thanks.

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

No problem. I like Wilks but I was also open to a offensive HC. I just didn't think Frank should have been the hire. Hiring a HC who got fired just never made sense to me. This is Tepper we are dealing with so it is what it is.

 

Hope Frank does well, but so far he hasn't looked like he belongs. Then you have people saying don't expect playoffs for a few years is not giving me any confidence in him being a upgrade.

 

We will see how it goes.

I think the people talking about needing a couple years are considering our new staff having to gut a lot of Rhule’s roster to get players for their schemes.  I’d imagine any new staff would have similar expectations for these people. Even if Wilks was our HC he would be doing a roster overhaul IMO. I’m not saying they are right or you are wrong but just trying to show you where it’s coming from. 
I low key want Thomas Brown to learn with Reich for a couple years and take over as HC when Reich steps down. I really like what I’ve heard from him and thing he is a great mind to pair with Young. 

[Davidson Deac II]

The interesting thing about Wilkes last year to me was that even though his background was as a defensive coach, it was our offense that got better under him.  And by better, I mean it looked like an actual NFL offense.  The defense on the other hand stayed the same or got slightly worse.  Cincy abused us, and Pitt physically dominated us in the trenches.  Tampa had its best offensive game of the season against us. For a defensive coach, that is not good.  

[jayboogieman]

54 minutes ago, frankw said:

they also loved a guy named Marty Hurney too.

I don't blame them. Marty is the type to keep paying his guys and not demanding production. Those guys had cushy, high paying gigs.

[top dawg]

Not in love with Wilks or Reich until proven otherwise.

[Khyber53]

I wonder if Wilks' short tenure in Arizona came about partly because he was unwilling to keep looking the other way...