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Official Panthers at Falcons GameDay Thread!

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MGH1989 Experienced

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Huddle will overreact as usual, but you can’t tell me the Falcons are that much better than the Panthers.

Bryce look composed but made two bad rookie decisions 

Offensive line played relatively well

Lack of playmakers on the outside really hurt. Hopefully Chark fixes that, but unfortunately Bryce’s top target for his career isn’t in this team right now.

Defense was good until the end, but run defense needs to be addressed

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3 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Our team is still talent deficient. Our WRs are definitely a problem, people running wrong routes or not being on the same page as Bryce is unacceptable. We have the QB position down, now we need to build around him and get some real talent! 

 

Yeah, I'm not giving up on Young. I did see a few good things from him today. The biggest issue is PLAYMAKERS at WR. We have not had a true playmaker since Smitty. Guys need to start emerging. I'm hoping Mingo becomes that dog! That's what Bryce, this team needs.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Didn’t say he was a bust just that his arm is weak and he lacks zip Ann accuracy on deep throws

Watch out. I mentioned his arm strength looked questionable during a preseason game and got poo on a ton. Not saying it isn't strong enough to be an adequate NFL QB, but you want more than that when trading up to #1.

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

You said he doesn't have an NFL arm.  A QB without a "NFL arm" drafted at 1 would be considered a bust.  He may not have an elite arm, but it is more than enough for the NFL.  

We will see but today it wasn’t good enough.   He was floating passes and throws longer then 10ish yards were pretty godawful

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

He is trying to say Young doesn't have a NFL arm.  Typical Huddler overreacting to a game.  Young is a bust we should have drafted AR (who left hurt) yada yada yada....

The problems we saw today (going for it unnecessarily, making a horrible call while going for it unnecessarily, no WR separation, listless offense) are probably gonna be issues all year. 

Other than a couple bad reads and 2 missed throws, Young was fine for a rookie QB. He just has abysmal weapons around him and that impacts any player. If he had Steve Smith to throw to instead of Adam Thielen, that would help. Leaning on Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen would also make life easier, as would handing off to DeAngelo and Stewart.

Instead, he's surrounded by an OL that played better than expected, an abysmal offensive game plan, a free-agent Rb whose lone impact play was a lost fumble, and a room of one promising rookie and a slew of replacement-level WRs. 

Removing all that from consideration, the 2-minute give-up offense of running it on 2nd and 20 was ridiculous. Don't expect any comeback this year, because it appears there's no plan for that. 

 

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