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Official Panthers at Falcons GameDay Thread!

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MGH1989 Experienced

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Huddle will overreact as usual, but you can’t tell me the Falcons are that much better than the Panthers.

Bryce look composed but made two bad rookie decisions 

Offensive line played relatively well

Lack of playmakers on the outside really hurt. Hopefully Chark fixes that, but unfortunately Bryce’s top target for his career isn’t in this team right now.

Defense was good until the end, but run defense needs to be addressed

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3 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Our team is still talent deficient. Our WRs are definitely a problem, people running wrong routes or not being on the same page as Bryce is unacceptable. We have the QB position down, now we need to build around him and get some real talent! 

 

Yeah, I'm not giving up on Young. I did see a few good things from him today. The biggest issue is PLAYMAKERS at WR. We have not had a true playmaker since Smitty. Guys need to start emerging. I'm hoping Mingo becomes that dog! That's what Bryce, this team needs.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Didn’t say he was a bust just that his arm is weak and he lacks zip Ann accuracy on deep throws

Watch out. I mentioned his arm strength looked questionable during a preseason game and got poo on a ton. Not saying it isn't strong enough to be an adequate NFL QB, but you want more than that when trading up to #1.

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

You said he doesn't have an NFL arm.  A QB without a "NFL arm" drafted at 1 would be considered a bust.  He may not have an elite arm, but it is more than enough for the NFL.  

We will see but today it wasn’t good enough.   He was floating passes and throws longer then 10ish yards were pretty godawful

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

He is trying to say Young doesn't have a NFL arm.  Typical Huddler overreacting to a game.  Young is a bust we should have drafted AR (who left hurt) yada yada yada....

The problems we saw today (going for it unnecessarily, making a horrible call while going for it unnecessarily, no WR separation, listless offense) are probably gonna be issues all year. 

Other than a couple bad reads and 2 missed throws, Young was fine for a rookie QB. He just has abysmal weapons around him and that impacts any player. If he had Steve Smith to throw to instead of Adam Thielen, that would help. Leaning on Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen would also make life easier, as would handing off to DeAngelo and Stewart.

Instead, he's surrounded by an OL that played better than expected, an abysmal offensive game plan, a free-agent Rb whose lone impact play was a lost fumble, and a room of one promising rookie and a slew of replacement-level WRs. 

Removing all that from consideration, the 2-minute give-up offense of running it on 2nd and 20 was ridiculous. Don't expect any comeback this year, because it appears there's no plan for that. 

 

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    • mrcompletely11
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By mrcompletely11 · Posted

      For starters, and again I am not sure what his capacity is in the media or how connected he is to the team, but I posted above Al Wallace says he is "absolutely" getting 50+ a year and he deserves it.  I obviously strongly disagree with it but it feels like like season when the team is slow leaking info to gauge the temp.   Secondly nobody on Gods green earth is going to sign an extension making less than he is making now.  Thats just crazy talk.  
    • LinvilleGorge
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      No. Physical tools alone aren't enough. There are plenty of examples of draft busts to support that. Aost all of them had the physical tools and that wasn't enough. But Bryce is a perfect example of the opposite. Absolutely elite intangibles aren't enough either. If you simply don't have the physical abilities all the football intelligence and work ethic in the world won't be enough to overcome it. Just look to the sidelines every Sunday. We call those people "coaches".
    • SmokinwithWilly
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      As much as I despise Billy B, his philosophy on QBs is how I would approach things if I were a GM. You always keep looking for your next starter.  He has Bledsoe, who got injured and his backup ended up being the GOAT. Even while he had that going, he kept getting his next guy and developing them. When Brady got hurt, Cassel stepped in and went 11-5 and they missed the wild card by dumb luck. Who knows how far they would have gone if they had gotten in. Jimmy Gs career started in NE. There were others, but he always kept looking.  You can't be afraid to keep looking for your next starter, but it looks like we're afraid to look for more than a marginal one. If you're going to offer a $25m contract with incentives, that screams marginal QB. It also screams you're just a transition until we find our guy. After a 10 or 11 win season, he's not accepting that offer. And then you're in a Daniel Jones situation. Do you pay for a year of success and pray it wasn't a one year wonder?  To this point, Bryce has really produced nothing, yet for whatever reason, our FO has not even sniffed at the idea that we need a real QB room with real QBs. Dalton was never starter potential, Plummer was a joke. KP certainly isn't, neither is Grier.  Our approach to the QB room needs to be one of strength not fear. Bring in guys who can compete or who you think can compete. This is THE elite position, in an elite sport, paid premium salary, where production matters. Either you produce or you can lose your job. It's not mean, it's just the reality of the position.  And I'm really just tired of our candy ass approach to it. 
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