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Official Saints at Panthers MNF thread


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If im the Panthers im trying to trade Burns for a possible 1st round pick.

 

It's clear we might need another franchise QB. Bryce is too small and he's not processing the field well.

 

If we can find a way to get Shadeur Sanders or Penix we can still have hope for the future.

 

Caleb and Maye may be the first 2 QB's off the board. Depending on who we trade Burns to we might be in position to grab the 3rd or 4th best QB in the upcoming draft.

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Just now, carpanfan96 said:

Why are you even complaining about that? The offense is offensive, young sucks, the wr suck. Can't move the ball consistently but the defense that's only given up 13 points Is what you're complaining about???

cuz its embarrassing for the opponent to do the same thing over and over and our staff doesnt adjust and thinks its just fine.

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Just now, Proudiddy said:

No disrespect, but you can tell when a player has "it." And Bryce doesn't.  Just my opinion.  We fuged up.  I never wanted him, and I decided that midway through last college season...  we really fuged up by trading all that capital for him instead of waiting for Maye, Williams, etc. this year.  Maybe we can snag Shadeur in the late first?

I was pounding the table after watching Young play like sh*t against Texas last season that Young was not NFL caliber. 

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