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Outside Perspective on Bryce

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I have always liked Sherman as a speaker, and when I clicked this video I really expected Keyshawn to vouch for Bryce, and Sherman rip Bryce. However, it was the exact opposite. Keyshawn sounds like an absolute moron in my opinon in this video, he is still stuck on size... I guess he got the short end of the stick by the producers. His arugments are pretty flat and his supporting evidence is borderline made up.

 

We are all emotionally invested, so we have reactions and most of our's come from a place of anger... bc we hate to lose. Hearing Sherman's take as a modern defensive player was valuable for me and helped me get grounded this am. A good listen if you have the time.

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Good post, watched this earlier and it was a nice perspective. 

i, like many, had some doubt creep in last night but have tried to keep some context in mind.

-We’re 2 games in, one of which was in a *loud* ATL stadium at home for his first start, and the other against an *elite* defense in NO. Some concern is warranted/understandable but to outright say he’s a bust after two games is complete lunacy. 

- If Bryce doesn’t overthrow Mingo last week for the TD, or Mingo doesn’t drop that pass that hits him in the hands to get in the red zone yesterday, or TMJ doesn’t let up on that route last week, we’d probably be having bit different kind of a convo. Playing “what if” is useless, but I think the amount of near-hits is more indicative Bryce needing to work on and finding his timing with our guys and a lack of perimeter talent than him not being able to throw deep. 
 

- I think a lot of the “deflation” of the fan base is also due to seeing CJ Stroud have a better start and seeing how Howell is doing in WAS. I get it - I wanted Howell in that draft as well, and was team Stroud before really digging into the draft. But you can’t let FOMO and “the grass is always greener” color your entire evaluation of someone - like I said before, it’s been 2 games. We’ve got a lot of chapters to go before either of their books are written. 
 

do I wish he came in and out up 400 and some touchdowns week one or two? Of course, but the kid is a rookie and it’s not like he looked like Zach Wilson. 
 

bryce very well could bust, not denying that, but I’m not gonna give up hope on the kid two weeks into his career. 
 

at least we didn’t trade for deshaun. Shits looking dark in Cleveland rn. 

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It's not even that he's just small, he doesn't even have the athleticism to make up for it. He not only got sacked by a shoulder brush, but got ran down by like he was a child a couple of times.

There should be SOMETHING tangible to point to when you draft a guy 1 overall. I don't doubt he's going to play better moving forward, but giving up so much for such a low ceiling is ridiculous.

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1 minute ago, Shaqil915 said:

It's not even that he's just small, he doesn't even have the athleticism to make up for it. There should be SOMETHING tangible to point to when you draft a guy 1 overall. I don't doubt he's going to play better moving forward, but giving up so much for such a low ceiling is ridiculous.

I keep expecting more quickness from him. But he can't see to turn a corner and out run DEs that are in chase. 

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24 minutes ago, Shaqil915 said:

It's not even that he's just small, he doesn't even have the athleticism to make up for it. He not only got sacked by a shoulder brush, but got ran down by like he was a child a couple of times.

There should be SOMETHING tangible to point to when you draft a guy 1 overall. I don't doubt he's going to play better moving forward, but giving up so much for such a low ceiling is ridiculous.

This is what's concerning to me, he's going to have to be the reincarnate of Drew Brees for this to work. 

Kyle Murray is small but you better not let him hit that corner or he's gone. 

He's going to need to be able to dictate to defenses presnap to make up for his physical limitations and right now the defenses are dictating to him. 

 

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1 minute ago, Pantherxtreme said:

This is what's concerning to me, he's going to have to be the reincarnate of Drew Brees for this to work. 

Kyle Murray is small but you better not let him hit that corner or he's gone. 

He's going to need to be able to dictate to defenses presnap to make up for his physical limitations and right now the defenses are dictating to him. 

 

Brees was always the comp you want with Bryce.  Gotta give him at least the full season but I'm frustrated with the entire organizational build at the moment.  Hopefully he gets better because if not we have at least another season of suck but more than likely 3-5

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It’s bad…we all know it’s bad but are in different stages of coping.

Denial - he will be just fine

Anger - the fug is going on 

Bargaining - if we get him weapons/better coaching he will be better.

Depression - why can’t they make things work

Acceptance - we just gonna keep on sucking 

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