Frank Reich vs Matt Rhule

[micnificent28]

Is this fair to debate? I'm not seeing a significant difference in their ability to adjust and take advantage of defenses. Same lack of short yardage efficiency. 

[BIGH2001]

Right now I’d take Rhule over Reich. Both McAdoo and Joe Brady are better OCs than 1980s Frank. 

[The Lobo]

They both suck 

[toldozer]

They look pretty similar to me. Teams always unprepared and making stupid game costing mistakes all the time. It's not a bad play occasionally that happens its consistently beating ourselves.  Perhaps if we put up a sign to remind the players not to do that. 

[PantherBoy95]

I will say this; Rhule was losing but his team was showing fight every game that first season.
Let's hope Reich can at least show the same as the season goes on. (and maybe call a time out as the clock is dwindling down.)

[hepcat]

They are both bad. Frank might be a little worse at offense. Rhule had a defensive coordinator whose best season in the NFL came from coaching the line backers on the 2008 Lions who went 0-16.

Let’s not get anything twisted here. They’re both awful coaches. 

[Harbingers]

At this point they are both equally as bad for different reasons. 

[pantherj]

I guess we could compare their first seasons. The team I liked the best under Rhule was his first team before Fitt poisoned the well. Although that team only won five games it was pretty fun. I had high hopes, but then Fitt came in and started the dark times. So for me that first season under Rhule was actually fun.

By the time Frank and Beans arrived here we were under full on Fitt torture. Fitt had already traded CMC, and we had suffered horribly under the long reign of Sam Darnold. Frank's first season here so far has been awful and feels pretty hopeless. We're basically playing an offense and defense without the right players in place, so it's just really weird and disjointed. We can't hang our hat on anything really, and we have no identity whatsoever. This isn't fun. It's the dark times. No Teddy carving up things with mid range passes. No CMC running wild. Nothing. Just a tumbleweed of despair rolling by. We have nothing.

[RumHam]

It's the exact same thing.

[Camp Fodder]

3 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

Right now I’d take Rhule over Reich. Both McAdoo and Joe Brady are better OCs than 1980s Frank. 

I can’t believe I’m agreeing with this but yea, especially Joe Brady. The offense from 2020 was actually sufficient, they just couldn’t close out games

[Camp Fodder]

4 minutes ago, pantherj said:

I guess we could compare their first seasons. The team I liked the best under Rhule was his first team before Fitt poisoned the well. Although that team only won five games it was pretty fun. I had high hopes, but then Fitt came in and started the dark times. So for me that first season under Rhule was actually fun.

By the time Frank and Beans arrived here we were under full on Fitt torture. Fitt had already traded CMC, and we had suffered horribly under the long reign of Sam Darnold. Frank's first season here so far has been awful and feels pretty hopeless. We're basically playing an offense and defense without the right players in place, so it's just really weird and disjointed. We can't hang our hat on anything really, and we have no identity whatsoever. This isn't fun. It's the dark times. No Teddy carving up things with mid range passes. No CMC running wild. Nothing. Just a tumbleweed of despair rolling by. We have nothing.

And teams that don’t really even have a national following(Vikings) taking over your stadium. Dark times indeed 

[Mainter]

Both are bad, but at least under Rhule we still had draft capital making college football scouting fun.

I cant even enjoy that this season knowing the Bears got our pick.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Mainter

[KSpan]

2 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

I can’t believe I’m agreeing with this but yea, especially Joe Brady. The offense from 2020 was actually sufficient, they just couldn’t close out games

Are you forgetting that the team could not score in the second half of games? Hell, they only scored 3 second-half TDs the entire month of December.

That doesn't make Reich any better, but the 2020 team had more than its share of suck. My expectations for this 2023 team were already low because of all the change but this has been worse than I anticipated.

[UnluckyforSome]

Well I'm sure any day now all that all-star power we heard so much about in the fluffy feel-good summer stories will kick in. It even reminds me a little bit of all the progress and improvement that was going on under Rhule that only he could see.