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Which mistake was the biggest  

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  1. 1. Which of these would fix the Panthers the most?

    • Not having chosen David Tepper as an owner.
    • Not having hired Scott Fitterer.
    • Choosing someone other than Frank Reich as head coach.
    • Taking someone other than Bryce Young at #1.
    • Not making the trade up to #1.
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18 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

The single common denominator and the fact that we have sucked since he took over in 2018 is Tepper

This. Everything football related that David Tepper has touched has turned into dog poo. Ever since Tepper started "putting his stamp on the football side of the house" in year two after focusing on the business side in year one we've been on a fast track to become the new Cleveland Browns.

The only stamps I've seen on his football organization are the mushroom stamps our opponents put on our foreheads every Sunday.

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39 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Which mistake would be most likely to right the ship?

I was always in the other front runner(can’t remember his name now but I’m pretty sure he was the Charlotte local one) for ownership camp so that’s an easy decision for me. Follow that with not getting Fitts and actually getting a GM that was above Rhule. 

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My magic wand would take us back to 2013 and promote Brandon Beane to GM.

As for keeping it more recent, I would go back to the 2022 off season. I detailed my targets in the offeseson. FIRE Rhule & Fitterer in January. Remove Chosen from the roster & never bring in Mayfield. Trade Brian Burns and Derrick Brown before the draft. Trade down to accumulate 10 to 12 draft picks. Hire a coach and GM that committed to build an offense around CMC, Brian Robinson Jr, Garrett Wilson, DJ Moore and Jelani Woods.

Turn the picks from trading Burns & Brown into Devin Lloyd, George Karlaftis, Coby Bryant, and James Houston IV.

Load up on overlooked/underrated QBs to compete with Darnold. Desmond Ridder, Aqeel Glass, Brock Purdy and Jack Coan.

That's what I wanted. My magic wand doesn't seem to work. Maybe I can find a magic lamp.

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22 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

My magic wand would take us back to 2013 and promote Brandon Beane to GM.

As for keeping it more recent, I would go back to the 2022 off season. I detailed my targets in the offeseson. FIRE Rhule & Fitterer in January. Remove Chosen from the roster & never bring in Mayfield. Trade Brian Burns and Derrick Brown before the draft. Trade down to accumulate 10 to 12 draft picks. Hire a coach and GM that committed to build an offense around CMC, Brian Robinson Jr, Garrett Wilson, DJ Moore and Jelani Woods.

Turn the picks from trading Burns & Brown into Devin Lloyd, George Karlaftis, Coby Bryant, and James Houston IV.

Load up on overlooked/underrated QBs to compete with Darnold. Desmond Ridder, Aqeel Glass, Brock Purdy and Jack Coan.

That's what I wanted. My magic wand doesn't seem to work. Maybe I can find a magic lamp.

Yeah that also requires a LOT of things to go right for us.

But, couldn't be worse off than we are now.

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Tepper not cleaning house the moment he signed the check was the start of the decline. Not cleaning house again before this next iteration is continuing the fall. But his biggest failure is not hiring an executive that has a proven background (Steelers) is his and his alone.

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4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Tepper not cleaning house the moment he signed the check was the start of the decline. Not cleaning house again before this next iteration is continuing the fall. But his biggest failure is not hiring an executive that has a proven background (Steelers) is his and his alone.

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He couldn't clean house either time. He has no fuging clue what he is doing. He needs some input because he knows nothing about the NFL

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

But do you trust Fitterer to do the right things with those picks?

No but we may have been able to use the Rams picks instead and kept Moore. Based on last year’s ending, the Bears and everyone else would have pegged the Rams as vying for top pick especially after dumping Ramsey, Lloyd and others. They’ve gotten lucky with some draft picks performing well above so our pick will likely be higher than theirs but the perception pre-draft was the opposite.

I’m not a Fitterer fan by any means but if we at least keep Moore and keep the 1st in 2024 that could be Caleb Williams then maybe we’d fire Fitterer/Reich but still be able to rebuild without waiting years.

Right now, it sucks to read your choices knowing that we don’t have the draft capital a normal rebuilding team has and we don’t have the pieces to really build without a tear down.

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Tepper and it's not even close.  We struggled to some extent, but there has been nothing but straight misery since he took over.  Without Tepper, Matt Rhule would have NEVER been our coach.  Without Rhule the GM (Fitts or other) would not have been hamstrung for 3 years.  That said, you have a college guy trying to build a NFL roster. After that disaster, you have a GM on the hot seat making rash decisions trying to save his own neck.  Then you have a #1 overall draft pick at QB, ready or not--NOT--the coaching staff is forced to play because to don't bench the top draft pick.  Now the new coach is quickly becoming the scapegoat because the rookie in all his hype is playing, well, like a rookie.

Fug, we're the Jets south.

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