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Brian Burns statline: 2 tackles, 0 sacks

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4 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

We could have had Justin Jefferson or CeeDee Lamb instead of Derrick Brown. One of our worst first round picks in franchise history considering how good of a class that was.

CeeDee was on our short list of 4 night of the draft

Then again so was CJ Henderson but yeah 

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3 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Not a single sack today by the entire defense. 
 

Derrick Brown - 2 tackles. At least burns put up a tackle for a loss. 
 

Ton of injuries and the entire defense has declined each and every game. But sure just pile on Burns just because our GM is an idiot.

Phins also out 2 starters today on the OL.  Including the LT who Burns saw 

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I've defended Burns but honestly I've been disappointed in not only his awful at times play but his piss poor leadership and decision making. I get being disgruntled with the FO because they are inept imbeciles but he's not going to get himself paid elite money anywhere with his flip flop act of talking all big in training camp about being a leader and then becoming Oscar the Grouch and getting mowed down by randos on crucial plays. If you want to be paid to be the guy on defense while the rookie QB is taking all the heat you need to show something. All he's showing other teams is he's a flake and takes plays off.

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4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Why we are treating Burns as an untouchable is beyond me.  Patrick Mahommes is off limits for trade.  That makes sense.  Burns though?  I simply don't get it.

I could see if he was a dominant force, like TJ Watt or prime Khalil Mack, but this guy is not that. 

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5 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

He was very ineffective today.  Can't have too many of those in a contract year.

He came out in the Atlanta game with a huge chip on his shoulders and balled out for the first quarter.  Burns has been barely a blimp on the radar since then.

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