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9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the thing though. All those other guys went to the worst team in the league. A team that earned the #1 overall pick. We traded up from #9. And we gave up a LOT.

These things are not the same.

If it makes you feel any better, we are definitely the worst team in the league rn 

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8 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

133 passing yards, you can't tell me there were plays he could have stepped up and threw up at least some 50/50 balls. fug it at this point, go yolo

I don’t disagree with you however with this WR group we are not getting 50/50 lol maybe 20/80 

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8 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Sir look at this roster now look at the coaches.

 

Nothing to be patient about respectfully.

I’m holding out for a Jag situation. Terrible coach with a bad roster year 1, found the right head coach year 2 + went a overspent in FA to help out their QB 

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8 hours ago, La Flama Blanca said:

You’re obviously not watching the games or have no sense of football. The guy is playing pretty damn well for the most part. We’re just not good right now,  the tide will turn eventually 

Taking nearly the whole game to eclipse 100 passing yards and scoring exactly zero touchdowns against the Bears is playing pretty damn well?

He had a couple nice throws but for the most part he was the same as he's been all along. He just does not look like he's going to be able to beat any teams in this league with his arm. That's the ugly truth we're left to face right now.

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Just blow it all up. It’s a complete failure on offense. Young will have his chance to show something in 2024 if he can’t then we move on from him too. This offense has been absolutely pathetic all around. I mean who would anyone want to retain or build around on offense right now? Wilks at least knew how to scheme to his players strengths. 

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8 hours ago, emhoward said:

Well unlike Bridgewater and Darnold, Bryce is, for the most part, going to be our QB for the next 3 years no matter what. Might as well believe until you can't, he ain't going nowhere.

So you would rather be delusional than to face the fact that the Panthers picked a scrub #1 overall? 

I say that accepting the fact that BY isn't an NFL quarterback now is better than 3 years from now. A good team can be built in 3 seasons, just not around a scrub QB.

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9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here's the thing though. All those other guys went to the worst team in the league. A team that earned the #1 overall pick. We traded up from #9. And we gave up a LOT.

These things are not the same.

We also got rid of our two best offensive players, last season. 

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I'll give him 2024 with a new staff.  However, I think the lesson learned is that physical limitations don't go away because of other intangible qualities.  They remain, and will be exacerbated with better competition. 

You need to craft something that suits them in order to succeed.  Unfortunately Bryce isn't a guy that can be dropped into a system.  He's someone who needs to be built around, a highly curated environment.  And they haven't built, rather dropped him into a Reich offense.  

Seems like we have a staff who aren't the nuts and bolts coaches running an offense in a mechanical fashion.  Evero seems to be the closest thing.  Brown is looking like he should've stuck with the Shanahan tree.  

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