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Peter King talks David Tepper

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6 hours ago, Tbe said:

Also from King…

The Christian McCaffrey trade. Sunday was his 25th Niner game since the trade from Carolina last fall. He’s given San Francisco 2,920 rushing/receiving yards and 30 touchdowns, in exchange for the 61st, 93rd, 132nd picks in 2023 and approximately the 165th in 2024. Some trade, John Lynch.

If nothing else about the team changed except Bryce was throwing 3rd down screens to CMC instead of Adam Thielen we would have won at least 4 games this year.

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4 hours ago, ickmule said:

Not really. King is a mouth piece spewing his opinion.  That doesn’t change the fact that Bryce has shown absolutely zero even when he had time. 

He is spewing his opinion about the pressure Bryce is facing when he literally provide statistics on the matter....

 

Lmfao, okay guy. 

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17 hours ago, Martin said:

I think it is fairly easy to be critical of Frank. His scheme, lack of adjustments, and game day decisions were terrible. Sure the roster is terrible, but so was Frank. Both can be true.

No coach on the planet can win with the players being fielded now.

 

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3 minutes ago, csx said:

No coach on the planet can win with the players being fielded now.

 

I think most coaches would have won more than one game, not many more, but definitely more than one. And they would have at least shown some effort to try different things.

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16 minutes ago, csx said:

No coach on the planet can win with the players being fielded now.

 

It's not even about winning, and it never really was IMO. It's about the fact that this young team was not developing or improving at all from week to week. That was always the metric for this season regardless of what the media/team outlets said, and while Tepper is a giant dumbass in many ways I'll give him credit for recognizing that and pulling the plug. The team's record could be what it is right now but if Bryce looked better, Mingo looked better, hte OL looked better, etc from week to week then Reich would still be here and it may not feel so utterly hopeless.

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On 12/4/2023 at 12:10 PM, Tbe said:

Also from King…

The Christian McCaffrey trade. Sunday was his 25th Niner game since the trade from Carolina last fall. He’s given San Francisco 2,920 rushing/receiving yards and 30 touchdowns, in exchange for the 61st, 93rd, 132nd picks in 2023 and approximately the 165th in 2024. Some trade, John Lynch.

Goes to 49ers, doesn’t get injured. Plays with panthers, on IR every other season. Hummmmmmmmm

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Random reactions. 

Tepper should have immediately fired the first coach that tattletail texted. You don’t want people like that in your organization. IMO.

I don’t or couldn’t understand what Reich was doing with the offense but it looked to me like a protest. A passive aggressive fug you, you try to win with 3rd round QB talent after you traded away my best WR and RB… none of it made any sense until Dalton shined that light and was quickly hidden.

It is hopeless to try and win in the NFL with that type of player at your most important position. I would not want to have that job. 

Tepper hired a coach but won’t listen to him. Get what you deserve. 

Some of our fans deserve this poo too but most don’t, they are simply powerless. We I should say. Especially with how easy it is to fool Tepper. 

In golf, you get a handicap to allow you to compete with guys that physically outclass you. White tees. You get a couple of strokes per side. 

Need to figure out how that works in football. 

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7 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

Random reactions. 

Tepper should have immediately fired the first coach that tattletail texted. You don’t want people like that in your organization. IMO.

I don’t or couldn’t understand what Reich was doing with the offense but it looked to me like a protest. A passive aggressive fug you, you try to win with 3rd round QB talent after you traded away my best WR and RB… none of it made any sense until Dalton shined that light and was quickly hidden.

It is hopeless to try and win in the NFL with that type of player at your most important position. I would not want to have that job. 

Tepper hired a coach but won’t listen to him. Get what you deserve. 

Some of our fans deserve this poo too but most don’t, they are simply powerless. We I should say. Especially with how easy it is to fool Tepper. 

In golf, you get a handicap to allow you to compete with guys that physically outclass you. White tees. You get a couple of strokes per side. 

Need to figure out how that works in football. 

Teams should have to kick off to us from their own endzone

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On 12/5/2023 at 8:43 AM, csx said:

No coach on the planet can win with the players being fielded now.

 

I mean wilks went 6-6 using the ground and pound on O. Then bend not break on D.

Still after 20 years of that, Ive had enough. But its shows why ron, fox, and wilks goto it. You can win even with lesser talent. 

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