The Athletic: “‘Hunger Games’ culture” at BOFA

[CBDellinger]

1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

Yea we arent rock bottom until after the draft when the bears make the pick and then Burns refuses to play under the franchise tag and we have no leverage and trade him for a 4th rounder.

why would we lose leverage? 

Devonte tried that and the packers got a 1st and a 2nd round pick for him.  

[ncfan]

Pretty damming listening  to this After reading todays report

 

Pat McAfee and Jeff Saturday yesterday on the situation in Indy Frank Reich left behind.

 

if a mod or someone can embed this that’d be be great

https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1732089149455298663?s=46

[CBDellinger]

You just need to wait for it to load (10 seconds or so) after you paste it into the reply box.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

My thing was I wanted to give Fitterer and Reich time to work together to build the team, but Reich is gone now and as it turns out, they weren't even working together anyway.

Reich should have gone tattle tailing to Tepper about how shitty of a roster Fitt built before Fitt stabbed him in the back.  But one thing I think it is safe to say about Reich, he isn't that sort of jerk.

[The Natural]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not a fan of betting on people who have no idea what they're doing getting lucky.

Yet it happens every single day. Have faith, we won't be in the cellar forever. 

[jayboogieman]

7 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Tepper has obviously made mistakes but he's still relatively new to this.

Tepper owned part of the Steelers for years before he bought the Panthers, which he has owned for years at this point. Can't keep saying he's "new."

[Jay Roosevelt]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think what ultimately doomed Frank is that he wanted to take a slow approach, and maybe wasn't as hard on players as he should have been.

Now with that said, I don't see how anybody could win in an environment that encourages the kind of bullsh-t we're hearing about.

True, but if Frank really thought the slow approach was the way to go it really shows a huge lack of awareness on his part given who he was working for.

[PanthersGTI]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think what ultimately doomed Frank is that he wanted to take a slow approach, and maybe wasn't as hard on players as he should have been.

Now with that said, I don't see how anybody could win in an environment that encourages the kind of bullsh-t we're hearing about.

You do wonder if the bulls-t stemmed from the an environment Tepper set OR if by the time people felt like they had to talk to Tepper, Reich had proven he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Really Frank has never been shown to develop a QB and maybe they were sold that he could or at least would be able to create an ideal vision for a rookie. Sounds like Frank was in over is head from day 1. No Pederson, No Luck, No Rivers to bail him out. 

[Waldo]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Which is a shame because it's inevitable you're also going to be throwing out some good people along with the bad.

But yeah...

It is a shame but it is also sometimes necessary. This looks like one of those times. 

[KSpan]

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[The Natural]

Just now, jayboogieman said:

Tepper owned part of the Steelers for years before he bought the Panthers, which he has owned for years at this point. Can't keep saying he's "new."

I don't think you can really count holding a small minority share in a team as true experience though.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

True, but if Frank really thought the slow approach was the way to go it really shows a huge lack of awareness on his part given who he was working for.

Unfortunately, it's not like "the person he was working for" has exactly been successful in his role.

What I'll say in Frank's favor is that he really should have been allowed to hire anybody he wanted without interference. It might not have gone any better, but it would have been a much fairer approach.

(and most likely a lot less toxic)

2 minutes ago, PanthersGTI said:

You do wonder if the bulls-t stemmed from the an environment Tepper set OR if by the time people felt like they had to talk to Tepper, Reich had proven he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Really Frank has never been shown to develop a QB and maybe they were sold that he could or at least would be able to create an ideal vision for a rookie. Sounds like Frank was in over is head from day 1. No Pederson, No Luck, No Rivers to bail him out. 

I can't really put anything positive on people running to the owner. That's just childish behavior and certainly not something a professional does.

[rayzor]

SO my dad goes through this short lived phase in his early 70s where he decided he would help take care of leftovers in the refrigerator for lunches.

He sees a couple leftover things that he typically likes and he just throws it into a bowl together and warms it up.  i would tell him that this isn't a good idea, but he just can't understand why it wouldn't be. then one day he tried something like leftover spaghetti mixed with sauerkraut mixed with a couple other things i couldn't see and he gets about half way through his bowl and says to me, "son, i don't feel so well..."and then he's up and hustling to the bathroom and when he's done he says, "you know, maybe i shouldn't have mixed those things together." 

that's kind of what we had here in carolina.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, KSpan said:

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