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Did the wide receivers magically get good?


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4 hours ago, RumHam said:

Or were they never the problem to begin? They werent. Its been the play calling and Bryce's decision making. Kudos to the best offensive game all year and the only game worth watching. Then the defense decided to not show up. We got hosed. We should keep this staff for one more year.

Nah this ain’t it. We never used pre snap motion with Reich. As of now, Chark is the only dude who had the speed to get separation under the old scheme and for whatever reason he was not. T Brown’s offense is light years better, the pre snap motion today and scheming open guys was so satisfying. The WRs def were a problem, it just wasn’t their fault. They were being asked to do something they couldn’t (outside of Chark) 

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4 hours ago, frankw said:

Fair or not at the end of the day the offense goes as the QB goes. Bryce was dialed in and that translated to rest of the offense.

As bad as people are saying GB's defense is. The Bucs are somehow worse. No reason we can't replicate this performance next week. Against Baker Mayfield too? Cmon...

Speaking of Baker just had a perfect passer ratings against the Packers last week. 381 yards and 4 td's. Bryce had a good game but he's gonna have to do it again against Tampa. Also since we've already played them once it'll be easier to get an idea of what changes have or haven't benefited the offense since the first game. On another note Tabor seems like he's possibly the best in game manager we've had in recent memory though lol. 

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Just now, Jackie Lee said:

Speaking of Baker just had a perfect passer ratings against the Packers last week. 381 yards and 4 td's. Bryce had a good game but he's gonna have to do it again against Tampa. Also since we've already played them once it'll be easier to get an idea of what changes have or haven't benefited the offense since the first game. On another note Tabor seems like he's possibly the best in game manager we've had in recent memory though lol. 

Tabor was fired up and got in the refs ear a few times that game. Haven't seen that from a Panthers HC in a long long time.

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5 hours ago, frankw said:

Fair or not at the end of the day the offense goes as the QB goes. Bryce was dialed in and that translated to rest of the offense.

As bad as people are saying GB's defense is. The Bucs are somehow worse. No reason we can't replicate this performance next week. Against Baker Mayfield too? Cmon...

Oh youre dreaming

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7 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Bryce was making some tight window throws and the packers D is garbage 

Gave up 500 yds last week to baker and made a giants backup qb look like tom brady but hey dont mention how bad the defenses are... you can only do that with andy dalton and other qbs. 

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2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Gave up 500 yds last week to baker and made a giants backup qb look like tom brady but hey dont mention how bad the defenses are... you can only do that with andy dalton and other qbs. 

Indy was a bad defense so was Tennessee and Chicago wasn’t great either and BY and this offense didn’t look like this.. So miss me with that Green Bay being a bad defense BS!! All year we haven’t made a bad defense look bad..

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