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Bryce Young was sacked 62 times

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onmyown Grand Master

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I mean y’all are too damn extreme. Two things can be true. Young can be a back up and that number can still be atrocious. 

That sack number is now the most in franchise history and also the most any number one overall QB in history has had besides Carr.

Regardless of Young not working out that is some really shitty numbers for whoever the QB is and doesn’t exactly attract talent. No wonder Stafford said fug that poo. 

 

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12 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards
 

I mentioned it at one point recently, saw it mentioned on twitter or something. I couldn’t get the list to sort by “TT” when I pulled it up myself, but when I followed the link the first time I saw it it was sorted that way. 14th longest time to throw at 2.9s. I wasn’t surprised, watching the games most of his sacks came after he had 5+ seconds. It was actually rare for defenders to just blow through the line and get to him quickly, they mostly came from him being oblivious to edge defenders eventually working their way to him because he couldn’t read the field or make a decision.
 

The OL wasn’t good, but nowhere near as bad as a lot want to make out because they just see Bryce on the ground again and mentally log it as another fail by the OL rather than analyze the situation enough to realize it was actually on Bryce. 

While the average is what it is...  

My own eyes whitness the line being blown up often, and setting the offense back. 

I understand wanting to lay accountability where it belongs, which is why the oline get a lot of blame. I'm not alone on this. Most of the respected experts would agree. 

This isn't saying letting Bryce off the hook. He most definitely does need to improve.  The fact he played behind this horrid oline as a rookie, plays a BIG part as to his problems this last season. 

Don't give up on Bryce because of this season. The Panthers most certainly won't.  

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9 hours ago, emhoward said:

A lot of those plays that Bryce had time, but still resulted in sacks, were coverage sacks. In other words, our receivers didn't get open or was taking too long to get open, and he got sacked. Heck it takes Thelin more than 2.5secs to get out of his break, and he's the best receiver we have. 

Not only that, but early on in the year when we had no running game, we were in plenty of third and long situations, we all know that when a defense gets you in third and long sacks become more frequent because A. They know you're passing B. The Receivers have to run longer routes to get past the sticks for a first down -- which of course means the QB has to hold the ball longer for the receivers to get past the sticks.  Again some of those were still on Bryce though, because in a some of those situations he could have thrown the ball away. 

 

In those situations Bryce should have thrown the ball away. QBs are taught to throw the ball away if there's nothing there. Don't just stand there and take sacks. Throw the ball away, damn it! 

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3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

While the average is what it is...  

My own eyes whitness the line being blown up often, and setting the offense back. 

I understand wanting to lay accountability where it belongs, which is why the oline get a lot of blame. I'm not alone on this. Most of the respected experts would agree. 

This isn't saying letting Bryce off the hook. He most definitely does need to improve.  The fact he played behind this horrid oline as a rookie, plays a BIG part as to his problems this last season. 

Don't give up on Bryce because of this season. The Panthers most certainly won't.  

Most of the respected experts won’t admit they were way off about Bryce, and also cater their message to the simpler fans who think that sacks are all on the OL. I won’t deny the OL got blown up sometimes and took a huge step back this year but to my eyes that saw every snap we took this year the line gave average protection over the course of the year. Bryce was way below average in his processing speed and pocket awareness.  There were as many times the OL gave him way over average time, sometimes 5+, occasionally over 10 seconds, to throw the ball and he just didn’t.  Whether there were receivers open or not that’s way too long to make a decision. And there were receivers open a lot more than people admit too. Open isn’t no one within 5 yards. Open is a step. Open is leverage. Bryce was just too inaccurate to take advantage of those steps and leverages, sometimes wildly missing guys who actually didn’t have anyone within five or more yards. 
 

I’m not giving up on Bryce per se, I want him to succeed. It would be great if he took a HUGE leap next year and we don’t need to spend our ‘25 first on a QB. I just don’t expect it. I saw all the flaws I noticed from his college performances, and his supposed strengths also turned into flaws.  His primary risk is the only thing that didn’t turn into much of a problem: durability. 

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Dude could have took a shot and laid down late in the season so we could see some actual NFL QB play, but no he had to be an iron man and continue to put up 100 yards passing a game. 

Half the fuging board is flat out shocked that we arent the worst OL in the league, Bryce made them look much worse than they are just like the rest of the team. 

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2 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Most of the respected experts won’t admit they were way off about Bryce, and also cater their message to the simpler fans who think that sacks are all on the OL. I won’t deny the OL got blown up sometimes and took a huge step back this year but to my eyes that saw every snap we took this year the line gave average protection over the course of the year. Bryce was way below average in his processing speed and pocket awareness.  There were as many times the OL gave him way over average time, sometimes 5+, occasionally over 10 seconds, to throw the ball and he just didn’t.  Whether there were receivers open or not that’s way too long to make a decision. And there were receivers open a lot more than people admit too. Open isn’t no one within 5 yards. Open is a step. Open is leverage. Bryce was just too inaccurate to take advantage of those steps and leverages, sometimes wildly missing guys who actually didn’t have anyone within five or more yards. 
 

I’m not giving up on Bryce per se, I want him to succeed. It would be great if he took a HUGE leap next year and we don’t need to spend our ‘25 first on a QB. I just don’t expect it. I saw all the flaws I noticed from his college performances, and his supposed strengths also turned into flaws.  His primary risk is the only thing that didn’t turn into much of a problem: durability. 

I never said the oline was responsible for all the sacks. Not sure why you wasted your time arguing that. 

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17 hours ago, onmyown said:

I mean y’all are too damn extreme. Two things can be true. Young can be a back up and that number can still be atrocious. 

That sack number is now the most in franchise history and also the most any number one overall QB in history has had besides Carr.

Regardless of Young not working out that is some really shitty numbers for whoever the QB is and doesn’t exactly attract talent. No wonder Stafford said fug that poo. 

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, behind that line, with those receivers, poor play concepts, constant tee-ing off by defenders, and no real running game... even peak Joe Montana and Tom Brady dropped into that situation would have collapsed.

I'm not sold on Bryce, and haven't been since the pick was made, but dang man, got to give the kid a fair shot at it. And woof, he got screwed about as bad as the fans did this year.

 

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