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Is this the worst GM/Coach combo in Panthers history?


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10 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Man I don’t know. Rhule was bad but Frank was awful. It’s hard to say which was worse, and they both had Shitterer as GM 

Oh, yeah, in the official rankings. Frank/Fitterer has to rank worse than Rhule/Fitterer.  No way around that outside of using gymnastics of the unknown to argue otherwise IMO.  

Rhule's 2020 alone sends Frank/Fitterer into first place. 

I mean, if it's just a Carolina ranking.   Frank might of been a better overall coach in the grand scheme.  But in terms of in Carolina, the Frank/Fitterer shitshow rules supreme. 

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1 minute ago, KBRed said:

I don’t know…Rhule is claiming he wanted Brock Purdy, but was vetoed. But yet, oddly his wife was able to make a pick. Hmmm 

Here is what I imagine it was really like.  

 the Matt Rhule/Fitterer era:

Matt Rhule brings something the table.  Fitterer is like yeah.  Sounds great Matt.  Matt Rhule brings something else stupid to the table and Fitterer is like.....hold on a second.....let's do something even more stupid instead.  And then they do that.  And it's just a back forth of two incompetent people doing horrible things. 

the Frank/Fitterer era:

Listen Frank.  We got this.  We got our sea legs now. We know what we did wrong.  I'm going to give you a bunch of people you don't want and don't fit what you do....and you coach it despite being dead inside. 

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