Are we low-key tanking? Donnelly thinks we're half-tanking.

[Jackie Lee]

9 minutes ago, csx said:

 

Corral is the only one of them affecting our cap now other than Young which isn't much. The issue isn't cap it's draft picks.

I just mean Corral could have gotten us the #1 overall pick without all the capital we gave up to get Bryce

[countryboi]

tanking doesn't fly in football, teams are expected to compete every year. No one who watched the Texans win 11 games in 3 years and then go 10 - 7 last year is going to ok with us tanking especially after the past 4 seasons. Everyone within this org job is on the line year to year and they are expected to win.

These are terrible takes

[RJK]

They don’t need to try to tank they’ll just continue to suck. Business as usual 

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, RJK said:

They don’t need to try to tank they’ll just continue to suck. Business as usual 

Came here to say the same thing. Garbage team gonna make bad decisions time after time

[rayzor]

they don't need to put an effort into tanking. 

they also don't need to be thinking about playoffs.

just get better. build a foundation. don't focus on anything but that. 

[mrcompletely11]

10 hours ago, top dawg said:

A sports analyst at 99.9 the Fan, as is Chris Lea (also at WRAL), as is Dennis Cox, as is Adam Gold. 

The Triangle has sports talk radio too, just like Charlotte---and probably better than Charlotte from what I've listened to. The redneck shtick of Charlotte sports radio kinda sucks to be honest.

mac and bone do not seem like the sharpest knives in the drawer

[SOJA]

YES WE SHOULD BE

Listen....out of all the mistakes Tepper and Co have made the single biggest one is not just taking our medicine and bottoming out properly. Instead we have tried to microwave quick fix solutions each offseason and left with something that looks like a Sci-Fi abdomination from Event Horizon. 

Year one of Matt Rhule was the perfect time to do this. Lawrence coming out. Cam coming off a major injury. Just fuging suck that year. Instead we sign Teddy and try to be competent. 

The next offseason, instead of drafting a young guy and just keeping Teddy as a mentor, we give up a sizeable draft haul for Sam fuging Darnold

The next offseason instead of just sticking with Darnold we try another half measure with Baker. 

This offseason, well we know how going all in worked. 

 

Listen: we are going to suck next year. It's just not possible we are good. That's OK. We have our first round pick. We right now have a lot of cap room opening up next offseason. Build a competent offense around Bryce and just see what you've got but do NOT try to go all in again. 

[mrcompletely11]

9 hours ago, strato said:

Let’s see. We Tried to win last year and went 2-15. It was an honest 2-15. 

There is no 1st round pick. 

Losing comes naturally. So it ain’t tanking. 

If we do decide to tank, we are gonna 100% have to keep Bryce healthy. 

I can promise you with 100% certainty that there is no way bryce can survive another 60+ sack season and however many hits he took and not get hurt.  Last year was an aberration in terms of him staying healthy.  And thats not a knock on his size,  no qb can go through multiple years of that punishment and not miss time.   I dont know how to fix the line but they damn well better do something

[MHS831]

With our cap, I do not see how we can rebuild in a year.  We will know the answer if we trade Burns for 2025 first rounder and other picks.

[SOJA]

Ok maybe tanking isn't the right word but building the team sensibily. With young home grown talent and a few mid level smart FA deals should be our focus

[MHS831]

  I am not sure our front office would know what to do--they might make good decisions if attempting to tank--we could hoist the Lombardi in February if we tried to tank.

 

Edited March 7, 2024 by MHS831

[The Natural]

Fitterer missed on damn near every draft pick he made. There is a massive lack of talent that's going to take more than a single off-season to overcome. Expectations for this year should be kept to a bare minimum. We aren't going to know what we have with Morgan and Canales for at least a few years.

[Tbe]

9 hours ago, countryboi said:

tanking doesn't fly in football, teams are expected to compete every year. No one who watched the Texans win 11 games in 3 years and then go 10 - 7 last year is going to ok with us tanking especially after the past 4 seasons. Everyone within this org job is on the line year to year and they are expected to win.

These are terrible takes

There’s expectations and then there’s reality.

We don’t have the talent to compete.

We need many drafts to restock the fridge.

[Waldo]

They are not tanking. Tepper has tried to win every year here with disastrous results. This will be more of that. If they were tanking with any kind of solid plan they would be dumping contracts and players for youngins to train and 2025 picks. It's not a rebuild or and it's not a tank job, it's just a poorly run team doing the same thing they have under this ownership.

As for using the 2 cut players as proof of tanking...Hurst was cut because he is done and shouldn't play anymore while Jackson was way overpaid and did free up something. Trade Burns and Moton while getting rid of dead weight like Sanders by eating tons of cap and getting 2025 draft capital in return. That would be tanking.

Free agency hasn't started and they can't trade away dead weight so nothing can be proved yet but it won't be a real rebuild or tank. Now another unintentional tank is on the table. Years of recent proof of how that happens here.