Giants thought they would have to give up more in trade for Brian Burns

[countryboi]

We got good value for CMC at the time. that said, Burns is gone and we spent that money well, at least I think so

[onmyown]

35 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Morgan was on board against the trade as well

I mean if we are perfectly honest neither are or were qualified to be a GM. 

Unless you ask Mr. Scot who literally believes teams were fighting over Fit for some reason.

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, CBDellinger said:

Whatever... he had to go.  Couldnt afford to keep him and upgrade the oline and besides... he didnt want to be here anymore.

 

 

many fans are in that last category.

[WarPanthers89]

24 minutes ago, countryboi said:

We got good value for CMC at the time. that said, Burns is gone and we spent that money well, at least I think so

I highly disagree. He’s one of the best players in the league. We have spend a sh*t ton of money, and draft capital trying to replace his production, and haven’t even come close. We would be MUCH better with CMC still on our team. That trade looks horrible now and we should have never done it. Burns….i believe that’s another story though. He’s not impacting games like CMC

Edited June 25, 2024 by WarPanthers89

[mrcompletely11]

29 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Says who?

All I have seen is rumors and innuendo.  We don't know what was discussed behind closed doors. 

Says our beat reporter.

https://twitter.com/PanthersAnalyst/status/1767372169238225108

 

 

water under the bridge and all but its not a good look

There may be 3ish non qbs (maybe) that you wouldnt make that trade for but I doubt its even that high.

Morgan was second in command behind Scott Fitterer in 2022 when the Panthers rejected the Rams’ offer just days after trading All-Pro running back Christian McCaffrey to the San Francisco 49ers. The lone dissenting voice was former salary cap and contracts executive Samir Suleiman, who believed the Panthers should take the picks for Burns, according to three sources familiar with the discussions.

 

Edited June 25, 2024 by mrcompletely11

[Daddy_Uncle]

Brian Burns is a majorly overrated player

[Davidson Deac II]

21 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Says our beat reporter.

https://twitter.com/PanthersAnalyst/status/1767372169238225108

 

 

water under the bridge and all but its not a good look

There may be 3ish non qbs (maybe) that you wouldnt make that trade for but I doubt its even that high.

Morgan was second in command behind Scott Fitterer in 2022 when the Panthers rejected the Rams’ offer just days after trading All-Pro running back Christian McCaffrey to the San Francisco 49ers. The lone dissenting voice was former salary cap and contracts executive Samir Suleiman, who believed the Panthers should take the picks for Burns, according to three sources familiar with the discussions.

 

Thanks. 

Maybe, but it could just be that they agreed to agree in public but had private disagreements.  We will never know for certain.  But if its true, maybe we should have kept Suleiman.  

Edited June 25, 2024 by Davidson Deac II

[strato]

I just didn’t want them to pay him was my biggest thing.

The two firsts deal, I felt like Tepper wanted to keep him but that is just guessing. You are nuts to reject at least pursuing it. If they offered that initially it is only a starting point.

[Manna]

oh well, he's their problem now once they see how he only shows up to 2-3 games a season. 

[Jackie Lee]

38 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I highly disagree. He’s one of the best players in the league. We have spend a sh*t ton of money, and draft capital trying to replace his production, and haven’t even come close. We would be MUCH better with CMC still on our team. That trade looks horrible now and we should have never done it. Burns….i believe that’s another story though. He’s not impacting games like CMC

The CMC trade was awful.

CMC for '23 2nd*, '23 3rd, '23 4th, '24 5th

-2nd was part of Bryce Young trade, 3rd & 4th were traded to PIT to draft DJ Johnson, 5th** swapped with NYG

[chbright]

Fit got worked every time he went in on every deal, and the ones he wouldn't.  He put us in a spot worse than the jags lowest of lows.

[DrowsyJungle]

Fitt thinking Burns was worth 2 first round picks when our record is as bad as it was/is is something I'll never forget. When you need talent everywhere you gotta get picks. Burns was good at 1 on 1 ball but anytime there was help he couldn't get home. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Anything we got was going to be way less than what we passed on from the Rams.

[MHS831]

We traded the contract--got 2 players who will make a huge impact on our offense than a DE who gets a sack every other game.  I hate to lose him, but I think this will give our guys a chance to step up.

I look at differences.  What is the difference between Burns and Clowney?  Burns is an A player and Clowney is a B player.  What is the difference between our Guards and Center last season and our Guards and Center this season?  LG was a D-, RG was a D-, Center was a D.  We should get an A at RG, B at LG, and C at center. Bigger difference for same money--and our QB will evolve from an F to a C, for example.  I can also see our RBs improving from C- to B.