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2024 Carolina Panthers record prediction


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21 hours ago, CRA said:

I really liked XL.  But I'm not expecting much from him this year given he is paired with Bryce.  I just think for XL to shine with his talents.....he needs a downfield gambler.  I think Brooks will slowly be brought along and we don't see his debut until in season.     That's our top 3 rounds...and really where you would be looking for rookie impact.  Rest should more than likely be developmental and have minimal impact. 

So I expect fans to get down on our draft picks early. 

I think the G play could get praise but C being such a wildcard (as well as Canales' run game) has that as not the lock I think some have it has.  Plus, I think Bryce simply can make the OL look bad given his size the problem he has in so many traditional settings/placement in the pocket. 

I don't know what to think of XL. He is very much in the mold of our two current bust WR's, TMJ and Mingo. Until we get a project guy like that to pan out, I am not gonna really expect much.

This is a throwaway season for Brooks due to the injury. That's really a 2025 determination in my mind. Doesn't really matter to me anyway. RB's are a dime a dozen.

As for the "project" guys. Wake me when one of those pans out. It's probably been more than a decade since that happened here.

The free agents mught fare better. If that's the case, then at least we only need to worry about cleaning up the draft evaluation. 

I don't expect our drafts to get better for many more years. That is going to take a concerted front office overhaul and by a competent architect. I don't really anticipate that. I'll likely see it in my lifetime but it won't happen in Tepper's lifetime.

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6 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

The offense was bad all together and that was not just on Bryce. This isn’t Bryce specific but the nfl gives up on QBs too easily, you can point to Tua and Goff as examples. 

The adverse to this list is quite longer.  QBs in this league typically get a long long leash to show if you can play or not

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As some did last year, people seem to forget injuries. The OL fell apart with a lot of injuries. We do not have any depth and injuries happen. 7 wins feels like a pipe dream where all the question marks get answered.

With our talent level and not getting way luckier than average, I’d say 4-5 wins.

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12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't know what to think of XL. He is very much in the mold of our two current bust WR's, TMJ and Mingo. Until we get a project guy like that to pan out, I am not gonna really expect much.

 

 I'm expecting him to get more work at kick returner with those new rules than actual targets in the passing game. 

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17 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I admire some of the optimism, but I'm going with 2-4 wins.  Anything beyond that is overachieving for next season.  It's really a recovery year for us.  Maybe we can get lucky and have a few things work out along the way.

I think 4 with some luck. I don't see us putting upwards of 25-30 points consistently so it's gonna take some winning of turnover battles to squeak out some wins

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On 7/2/2024 at 7:34 AM, kungfoodude said:

I don't know what to think of XL. He is very much in the mold of our two current bust WR's, TMJ and Mingo. Until we get a project guy like that to pan out, I am not gonna really expect much.

This is a throwaway season for Brooks due to the injury. That's really a 2025 determination in my mind. Doesn't really matter to me anyway. RB's are a dime a dozen.

As for the "project" guys. Wake me when one of those pans out. It's probably been more than a decade since that happened here.

The free agents mught fare better. If that's the case, then at least we only need to worry about cleaning up the draft evaluation. 

I don't expect our drafts to get better for many more years. That is going to take a concerted front office overhaul and by a competent architect. I don't really anticipate that. I'll likely see it in my lifetime but it won't happen in Tepper's lifetime.

Mingo comes in with a higher ceiling IMO than the other 2.  Hard to disagree we have lacked diversity as they are all fairly similar in style.  Gotta just hope the law of averages eventually applies and hit on one.  Would be nice to hit on the one with the highest ceiling. 

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4 hours ago, CRA said:

Mingo comes in with a higher ceiling IMO than the other 2.  Hard to disagree we have lacked diversity as they are all fairly similar in style.  Gotta just hope the law of averages eventually applies and hit on one.  Would be nice to hit on the one with the highest ceiling. 

Fair but I also think Mingo has by far the lowest floor.

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I like the addtions on defense and believe our defense is going to keep us in many games.  If the offense  can put us in the 20-24 point range we might just have an above .500 season.

No one gave Houston a shot at making the playoffs this time last season.  Why can we duplicate what Houston did in 2023.  

9-8 and in the wild card hunt.

Gotta love optimism. 

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