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Xavier Legette struggling

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It’s early- the kid seems to want it. He works hard and has those traits people keep pointing out, sometimes jeeringly. They haven’t even practiced in pads yet. No Need to Panic.

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12 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

IF an old and slow Thielen can get 1k yards with a rookie Young at QB Smitty would have no issues at all getting his numbers. The comparisons to Clausen are pretty asinine even if you don't like Young. Young hasn't lit the world on fire but from someone who watched every single game of Jimmy (I live 40 mins from SB Indiana where his alma matter Notre Dame is located everyone of my friends was/is a ND fan so I was really hoping we hit the jackpot) he was on a completely different level of bad compared to where Young is/was currently.

Theilen was just force feed BS routes.  It’s why he had TE numbers and not WR numbers.  He wasn’t top 100 ypc or yac per catch. 

and again we saw what happened on 2010 when the O was a joke and non-threatening.  89 took issue with it.   Theilen didn’t.  Because Theilen shouldn’t be a starting WR getting that volume to begin with. 

Jimmy threw the same bullshit routes and couldn’t go downfield.  He did it from a less pass friendly version than Frank’s O.  Not that Franks O was pass friendly in the big picture 

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21 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I was concerned that all our WRs are the same size--about 6'2" and about 210-except for Johnson.  If you can't throw deep (time and arm) you need some YAC guys.  So we have Thielen, Mingo, XL, and TMJ all from the same basic mold.  He was not my first pick--I wanted the kid from Georgia.

having said that, in this image, he was hooked, preventing the back shoulder or quick out.  He will probably run outs, slants, digs (at times), and crossing routes.  He will not need to run the complete route tree right away.  I like Legette, but I did not understand the pick, frankly. 

Honestly, if you want to train up a rookie WR, then you get to the CB and tell him to do just that to the guy... hook him, hold him, force him out of bounds, trash talk him, hard bump him off the line, tug his jersey during the run. Just make it hell on the kid.

He's caught balls before time and time again. He needs to toughen up to the harassment that DBs are going to give him on every down this season.

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1 hour ago, Iceup said:

It’s early- the kid seems to want it. He works hard and has those traits people keep pointing out, sometimes jeeringly. They haven’t even practiced in pads yet. No Need to Panic.

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Fair point but it is just the history of this franchise in being able to properly evaluate talent and over drafting players. I like getting the 2nd rounder back next year and I liked the TE pick in round 4. I also liked  the trade to get back in the first but would have went with Ladd. The rest of the draft I felt we over drafted especially round 2 and 3

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1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

He would have Young in tears on the sideline. It wouldn’t be pretty 

Yet that is what gets some people going. Ridicule and derogatories might finally get a reaction that brings about change.

Not saying that’s Young but it is definitely Smitty. 

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35 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Fair point but it is just the history of this franchise in being able to properly evaluate talent and over drafting players. I like getting the 2nd rounder back next year and I liked the TE pick in round 4. I also liked  the trade to get back in the first but would have went with Ladd. The rest of the draft I felt we over drafted especially round 2 and 3

Why not just try to draft some solid football players ya know?  The roster is completely empty.  I'd rather have the Amazon Basics version of a WR or DE than some 24 year old Make A Wish kid that never did a thing in school but be tall.

In baseball you don't score a lot of runs by trying to hit every pitch out of the park.  You get on base.  And then you keep getting on base.  And then when the pitch is right, you swing for the fences and bring everyone home.

Our drafting strategy doesn't get anyone on base.  Everyone they draft is a long shot.  It's ok to have some picks like that,  but you only get the luxury of those picks once you have a solid foundation.

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1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Why not just try to draft some solid football players ya know?  The roster is completely empty.  I'd rather have the Amazon Basics version of a WR or DE than some 24 year old Make A Wish kid that never did a thing in school but be tall.

In baseball you don't score a lot of runs by trying to hit every pitch out of the park.  You get on base.  And then you keep getting on base.  And then when the pitch is right, you swing for the fences and bring everyone home.

Our drafting strategy doesn't get anyone on base.  Everyone they draft is a long shot.  It's ok to have some picks like that,  but you only get the luxury of those picks once you have a solid foundation.

It's not even that they're long shots.  They're almost always older "raw" prospects.  I don't even normally see them as potential high ceiling guys.  People comparing him to Metcalf like it's a given but he's shorter, has much shorter arms, and small hands.  It's like we draft old "raw" guys but still draft for high floor instead of ceiling.

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