Everyone should have seen the disaster around Bryce coming

[CRA]

1 minute ago, TD alt said:

I get it, but the buck doesn't stop with the second in command.

Morgan wasn't my first, second, third, fourth or fifth pick, but I still think that he deserves a little patience from fans. I mean, if he's fired then we may not see success in the 2020s. 

The buck doesn’t stop with the 2nd in command but he was part of building the mess we are in today.  For whatever reason people painted him as someone quietly raging against all those bad moves.  That’s the Fitterer logic that allowed him to stay too long.  

and Jim, Morgan and all these folks part of building this mess….remained all in on Bryce.  You don’t do that if you thought it was wrong and see this team for what it is

[Tbe]

2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I get it, but the buck doesn't stop with the second in command.

Morgan wasn't my first, second, third, fourth or fifth pick, but I still think that he deserves a little patience from fans. I mean, if he's fired then we may not see success in the 2020s. 

He needs to stay as long as Canales is here.

For the sake of being able to hire someone good, Tepper needs to avoid the fire button for at least 3 years.

[Ricky Prickles]

7 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

There will still be some who blame this defensive strategy on WR's not getting open etc.. Lots of people don't realize defenses play every QB differently depending on their traits, or lack thereof. 

I seen lots of guys running open but I unfortunately did not see a QB who is capable of getting them the ball ona. Consistent basis as an NFL QB must do

[Aussie Tank]

Most of us Bryce supporters through the offseason were of the opinion that we needed to wait and see because of how bad everything was last year. Now saying that we have now waited and seen and he’s cooked. 

[Hoenheim]

I made a comment last off season where the hype for Bryce was at a fever pitch. I said something along the lines of, "you guys aren't even considering the possibility he may fail" . It was getting pretty toxic with anyone with a negative opinion about Bryce being shouted down by the majority. 

[Jackie Lee]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Prickles said:

I seen lots of guys running open but I unfortunately did not see a QB who is capable of getting them the ball on a consistent basis as an NFL QB must do

The All 22 breakdowns will be very telling

[Ricky Prickles]

3 minutes ago, Coheed said:

Pretty much where I’m at. Wanted to give him a shot to prove people wrong this year but after today I have no faith and am pretty confident it will be more of the same. I would love to be proven wrong but man, that was just beyond dreadful 

Our minds are and were thinking exactly alike. I was willing to have hope and hope some improvement with blocking and some different WR's and an entire off-season spent working would help Bryce become an NFL QB but my hope has been fully destroyed and my faith in Bryce is now gone.

[BIGH2001]

This team will put to rest that silly debate about worst panthers team ever. This looks way worse than 2010 or even last season.

[raleigh-panther]

55 minutes ago, t96 said:

Yes, we all know Bryce isn't an NFL QB. Not only not a starter but not even a 3rd or 4th string practice squad caliber QB in the NFL. I truly believe he will be 100% out of the league by 2027, maybe sooner. That said, I completely get how some here deluded themselves into believe maybe a "guru" like Canales could help him turn it around. He was 1st overall pick so he must have something he can show, right? I get it. Now we're all in agreement with the reality that he's not an NFL QB.

Well, as bad as Bryce was, he is merely a symptom and not the root cause. We could've had Mahomes and we still lose this game to the mediocre Aints. ST was a mess, defense was even worse than Bryce was and our OL was demolished yet again, the list goes on. Wholly unprepared, nobody seemed to give a poo about it either. Bryce smiling after a pick on his first throw.

 

What has been extremely clear to me since January 22 was that the rest of the team around Bryce would be complete ass, and none of our offseason moves would turn out to be successes. You know why? We had Fitterer for 3 years, in what is arguably the worst run from a GM in NFL history (influenced by Tepper meddling, certainly, but still). The worst trade in league history for probably the biggest 1st overall QB bust ever (at least Jarmacus had some talent that in theory could've been put to good use with a better attitude, Bryce just has nothing), terrible contracts left and right, trading away elite players while passing up 2 1sts for Burns only to turn around and trade him anyways for less than a 1st, this list goes on too.

How in the fuging world could anyone in their right mind think that the Assistant GM for that entire tenure, Fitterer's right hand man, be deserving of being promoted to GM? Seriously. Dan Morgan was a great player here before concussions and seems like an ok dude, but what the actual fug. How do you keep anyone around from that absolute disaster of a front office? I just do not understand it, knew it was a mistake at the time and my blind homer fan optimism/hopium led me to try to ignore that reality for much of the offseason, but it was 100% clear to me from the moment Tepper hired him. This will not work with Morgan, will not work with the HC he/Tepper picked, and nothing will work until Tepper is gone because he fuging makes decisions like this.

 

Yeah, add to the list of rants here, but it needs to be said as Bryce is getting most of the blame when in reality it's all Tepper and his terrible decisions like hiring Morgan as GM. Canales gets a bit of a pass as he's in way over his head and it's not his fault our dumb asses gave him a HC job well before he was ready.

I have no more fugs to give

In the  NFL, if you ain’t got a QB, you ain’t got nothing

[TD alt]

3 minutes ago, Ricky Prickles said:

I seen lots of guys running open but I unfortunately did not see a QB who is capable of getting them the ball ona. Consistent basis as an NFL QB must do

Bryce couldn't make the easy throws. He has shown very little touch and/or layering of the football when he's on the move. Those misses are no longer dumbfounding unfortunately. If we tell the truth, we've come to expect them. 

 

[CPF4LIFE]

8 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Most of us Bryce supporters through the offseason were of the opinion that we needed to wait and see because of how bad everything was last year. Now saying that we have now waited and seen and he’s cooked. 

Seeing the light is always a good thing. 

[jasonluckydog]

I'm a proud Bryce hater from day 1. I have the reprimands to prove it. I begged this team well on this board anyway to not draft him. I was pooed to death by a vast majority here. 

[AceBoogie]

Amen 

[Jon Snow]

I saw it coming the second it was announced they traded up for the 1st overall pick. I sure as hell they don't do that this coming draft. Odds are the won't need to and they will certainly screw it up regardless so there's that.