How did they mess up so bad with Mayfield and Darnold,

[Jmac]

We had two answers right in our pocket and fugged it up. Both are playing up to their draft status after being dogs here. Obviously, it had to be personal on the field, coaching, or scheme. Could also be all of the above. 

 Both guys are much more talented than Young. Just have to watch them play to see the glaring difference. Having to give up the store to get QB #1 when they had the answer already here.

I would take either one over what we have, hands down. Why do you think was the reason they have both done a 180 since leaving?

[csx]

Matt Rhule

[LinvilleGorge]

What have the Panthers actually done right under David Tepper? It's an incredibly short list.

[Ornias]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What have the Panthers actually done right under David Tepper? It's an incredibly short list.

Removing the logo at midfield is about the only thing I can think of. 

[Manna]

Maybe they didn’t take their time here seriously. Sometimes it takes a little bit of time and humility to get to where you want to be. 

[CRA]

Sam Darnold and Baker are basically the same dudes they have always been....only changes have been what has existed around them.  In Carolina, they had bad coaching and bad talent.  So you get bad side of that equation. 

If Sam Darnold was in Carolina and 70% of the targets went to Justin Jefferson, a RB or a TE......he would have sucked less here.   We didn't have the means to allow that. 

[CRA]

16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What have the Panthers actually done right under David Tepper? It's an incredibly short list.

Panther Ring of Honor. 

end of list.  His one bright spot is celebrating the accomplishments under the prior owner. 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

It's an organizational failure. We see the product on the field and if it stinks we think it's the players fault. What we don't see is the politics behind the scenes. Imagine you work for a sh*tty company, but the public focuses on your personal work and because you don't perform due to lack of resources and guidance, you're judged as a lazy and poor worker. 

[trucpfan]

A stout offensive line, much better coaching and each has an All Pro Wr as their number one guy. We had none of those 3 during each QBs tenure.

Those 3 things are the difference in achieving success vs looking like Bryce on the regular. 

Each guy has a franchise WR as their go to option big difference in comparison to what we've trotted out this year a rookie as the go-to guy or a 35 yr old WR and in football age that's old!!!! Huge difference in weapons but while they were here we were run by Rhule who is the best snake oil salesman I've ever witnessed.

[Gapanthersfan]

He was growing as a player under Wilks, Arguably the best coach he had played for to date. Tepper decided to light the dynamite on it all and here we are. No DJ, no 1st rounders for Burns, and a promising in some ways but still limited starting QB. 

The resources that could have been more wisely spent would have had us the favorite to win the South this year. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

Rhule/Frank bad coaching

Lack of talent around them although Darnold had CMC and Moore for a short period of time. Oline play was pretty bad as well.

 

 

[Bear Hands]

While we’re playing what ifs - there was a path to getting a solid team situated, it all stems from the timing of the sale, waiting to can Ron, and delaying the LT search. 

If you fire Rivera a season sooner, you hire in the Kevin O’Connell circuit. Blowing up right when Tepper got here, we could’ve been positioned for Herbert/Burrow/Herbert.

Then the next season, positioned to get Slater or Darrisaw in instead of that damn Horn pick.

And then the following, wouldn’t have been forced to pick Icky and could’ve gone Garrett Wilson or Parsons. 

No need to mortgage future picks at any point. Keep DJ Moore and CMC in that scenario, and not suffer through one of the most forgettable seasons in our history with Teddy. 

Not firing Rivera sooner and delaying the LT search until it became a forced R1 pick set us back as much as missing on QBs.

I blame jeans day.

Okay that game of what if was fun. Back to the present lol.

[UnluckyforSome]

David Tepper introduced Charlotte and the Carolinas to the concept of live music. 

[Panthering]

We saddled them with Matt Rhule and Ben freaking McAdoo to go along with some crap talent around them. They never really had a chance.