All of Bryce’s weapons that left the team

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Lol we get it you hate Bryce so much that even when he makes tough throws it’s not him it’s the receivers. But when they lose it’s all him. I think we got it you don’t have to repeat yourself 

 

Where Young is concerned you constantly repeat yourself   I wish he could be everything you think he is 

i do not hate Bryce Young

i do noT actively root for him to fail

i have simply accepted his floor is his ceiling

What i do hate is that the Panthers picked him to be something he cant be and wasted players , draft picks and veterans’ longevity on him

After year 3, cut bait 

[SmokinwithWilly]

11 hours ago, NAS said:

He showed growth and progression for 5 straight games prior to last week.  I think next few games will  be telling, but I'm not sure what his ceiling may be.   All I'm saying is he did some really good things, showed that he can play against the blitz, carry the team on game tying or potential game winning drives... the jury is still out.  I wish he would have had Tank Dell, Nico Collins, Hunter Henry, Malik Nabers and other young receivers to be fairly evaluated.  

I was out on Bryce after week 2 because he looked like he was ruined, no confidence, scared of the pressure, not keeping his eyes downfield.  Even in the loss last week he didn't seem to revert back to that mindset despite the turnovers.  I think he needs at least one more weapon in addition to Coker hopefully being the next Puka Nacua.  

5 weeks? More like 3. He didn't do squat to win that game against the Giants. That was Chuba and the defense getting 2 key turnovers and Jones shitting the bed. The game winning drive in OT he handed the ball off. That's not progress. That's Jimmy Claussen. That game was who wanted to lose it more and Jones won. 

He looked better the next 3, and then he poo the bed all over again against Dallas. 3 fumbles is inexcusable. 

So far we've devoted 

3 1sts, 2 in trade plus XL

4 2nds, 2 in trade, Mingo, Brooks (plus 2 5ths)

Sanders and Zavala in the 4th

DJ Moore

Plus the most expensive offensive line in the league. 

Maybe he'd have more weapons if we hadn't had to pay a kings ransom to be better than one of the worst rookie QB seasons in history. 

 

[bandu]

10 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

How many Josh Allen's are there?  I think every team's wants a Josh Allen.  There aren't many available very often.   Look at Stroud this season when his oline and receivers haven't played as well.

Bo Nix is a rookie Qb & at the same time plays behind one of if not the worse oLines in the NFL right now the Broncos lead the NFL in allowing the most sacks at 51 so far this season 

& Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills have allowed the fewest sacks this season  ...just saying 

Edited December 22, 2024 by bandu

[bandu]

3 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

What is Young’s record ?

what are his rankings ?

why do defenses stack the box against the run more  against Young than Dalton

He was a bad draft pick at 1 by a fired

wishing  and hoping wont change it

they stack the box & will continue doing so  because they know Bryce Young is not going to beat them with his arm.

[AggieLean]

2 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

5 weeks? More like 3. He didn't do squat to win that game against the Giants. That was Chuba and the defense getting 2 key turnovers and Jones shitting the bed. The game winning drive in OT he handed the ball off. That's not progress. That's Jimmy Claussen. That game was who wanted to lose it more and Jones won. 

He looked better the next 3, and then he poo the bed all over again against Dallas. 3 fumbles is inexcusable. 

So far we've devoted 

3 1sts, 2 in trade plus XL

4 2nds, 2 in trade, Mingo, Brooks (plus 2 5ths)

Sanders and Zavala in the 4th

DJ Moore

Plus the most expensive offensive line in the league. 

Maybe he'd have more weapons if we hadn't had to pay a kings ransom to be better than one of the worst rookie QB seasons in history. 

 

Someone finally is being real. That Giants game being apart of his “good” games was always laughable. He was mediocre, and it shows how low the bar is. OP was always reaching on 5 games 

Edited December 22, 2024 by AggieLean

[CPF4LIFE]

5 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

You can't talk sense to these people.  

Multiple seasons of 3 wins before they drafted stroud, nico Collins was a nobody, no run game, the o line aint never been good. All that talent but couldn't win any games with davis mills? People right here on this very forum said Stroud would have a rough rookie because that team had nothing around but magically that flips as soon as stroud starts beasting on the league.

Yall opinions of that texans team have made NO sense from day one.

[Navy_football]

On 12/21/2024 at 10:26 AM, NAS said:

Imagine you're a rookie and this is what they surround you with in addition to a terrible offensive line.  Of course you'll be terrible.  Thielen was his only reliable receiver. 

And coaches/play callers that didn’t know how to use you or the rest of the team. 

[Icege]

Fans really expected Bryce to elevate guys that others couldn't.

Edited December 23, 2024 by Icege

[csx]

8 minutes ago, Icege said:

Fans really expected Bryce to elevate guys that others couldn't.

Who are you referring to?

[csx]

46 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

And coaches/play callers that didn’t know how to use you or the rest of the team. 

It's a big ask to make a small bodied small arm to be useful.

Edited December 23, 2024 by csx

[mrcompletely11]

18 minutes ago, Icege said:

Fans really expected Bryce to elevate guys that others couldn't.

welcome back

[MechaZain]

If he can make the good performances we've seen this year his floor and minimize the bad to just a handful of games he can be great in the right offense. That's basically the original vision they had of dude. Eye popping stats were always a pipe dream which is why they've been saying stuff like "game manager" and "point guard" since before he hit the field. The idea all along has been that for Young to be great he has to be one of the most consistent QBs in the NFL to make up for what lacks. He's not there yet but I've seen enough to believe he could be with the right pieces.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

If he can make the good performances we've seen this year his floor and minimize the bad to just a handful of games he can be AVERAGE in the right offense. That's basically the original vision they had of dude. Eye popping stats were always a pipe dream which is why they've been saying stuff like "game manager" and "point guard" since before he hit the field. The idea all along has been that for Young to be great he has to be one of the most consistent QBs in the NFL to make up for what lacks. He's not there yet but I've seen enough to believe he could be with the right pieces.

I agree with everything you said, with exception one word in the first sentence  (I changed to average) and most of the last sentence.  He had a good game yesterday.  Things went about as well as they could for him.  Again, I can't bank on everything falling exactly into place like that week-to-week.  To caveat he's going to have a good game if everything else falls into place is not the pins and needles I want to be be sitting on each Sunday. I rather have a solid QB and can overcome a lost fumble or tipped pass for a INT.    Winning with a clean sheet is a lot easier than winning when overcoming adversity.  That's what Bryce has yet to do.

[Navy_football]

Every QB needs weapons. Every one. Mahomes 1st round pick was a WR. They got Diggs for Josh Allen on top of what he already had there, and then they drafted a WR in the first . The Ravens have been trying to find WRs for Lamar forever. Herberts first round pick was a WR. If you don't have a playmaking WR, then you're looking for one. Hence why their salary increase is pacing that of QBs. But Bryce is supposed to make due when his best receivers are a 34 years old UDFA and a rookie UDFA. Y'all are truly tripping as this point.