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Basbear Grand Master

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Moving the goal posts are we?  You asked for 1 I gave you 1. 

2.  Odafe Oweh 

Penn State player who didn't have a sack in his last season, but was drafted by the Ravens in 2022 and had 10 sacks in 2024.

I get your point--but I already made a point about the risk and why I would not do it, and then you mention the round which is a statement about risk tolerance.  

 

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My point was and is that it's rare. LOL

 

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 Believe it or not, this player was drafted #1 overall in 2022. LG much like players not playing in bowl games and not doing combine drills, its maybe a new normal. Draft is more than college stats..... ITS more magic seeing eye future BS!!!1!11!

 

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 Believe it or not, this player was drafted #1 overall in 2022. LG much like players not playing in bowl games and not doing combine drills, its maybe a new normal. Draft is more than college stats..... ITS more magic seeing eye future BS!!!1!11!

 

At least they didn't draft Kayvon Thibodeaux. LOL

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There is no way you pick Stewart in the top 10! At best, I'd pick in the 2nd round. At best! He doesn't disrupt the game. He's a solid player, but not a disruptive force. At all. Watching him against Texas this year, and honestly Nick Scourton looks like the better player. No pass rush moves. Not even particularly physical at the point of contact with olinemen. No way. 

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7 hours ago, MHS831 said:

You mean like Danielle Hunter who had 4.5 sacks in three years at LSU and has had 37 sacks over the last three years in the NFL?  In fact, he has 99.5 for his career.

I can go down the list with double digit sacks in college and give you a list of busts.  Stewart has dropped 30 pounds.  He has athleticism.

The issue is that there is no proof he will do such a thing. Can he be drafted in the 2nd round? Can we also pick-up quality defensive tackles? 

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You can’t draft starting your argument on outliers.  There are far more busts than success stories with that kind of production.  Not to mention he lost a lot of weight to make those numbers.  He lost over 10 lbs since the Senior bowl!  I think we should stay away.

He went from being listed as 290 to 267 in a short time period.  Hmm.

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48 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

 

The issue is that there is no proof he will do such a thing. Can he be drafted in the 2nd round? Can we also pick-up quality defensive tackles? 

I have stated that he is too risky.  my point was this:  If you see a guy with his measureables and his "Myles Garrett" qualities he should not be disqualified because he underperformed in college.  To play Devil's advocate to your point:  Is there proof anyone will be successful as a pass rusher? I get it, and I have stated that I would not eliminate someone based solely on college performance.  We have guys who had 18 sacks in college busting and we have (based on my example) guys with 1.5 sacks as a senior in college averaging double digit sacks.  My point was do not turn on a guy based on that alone.  The higher you draft this guy, the higher the risk--I said morgan cannot afford to make mistakes this year--like when he drafted XL and Brooks last year--one was raw and one was injured.  It would be stupid to draft Stewart at 8.  However, someone is going to draft him in the top 20, in all likelihood.  That team will be taking on less risk than the Panthers at 8, but more than I would take--to your point. 

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32 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

No way you take him at 8. How many edge rushers will be available at that point and later? And he is a 4-3 end too.  

If Wonnum is an OLB in our system, then Stewart could be as well. 

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I'm actually starting to come around. He's already good against the run is an athletic freak plus his QB pressure numbers were good. Some good coaching and more freedom to pin his ears back for the QB he could be a home run.

Depends how risk adverse you are me I've got a gambling problem 

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2 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I'm actually starting to come around. He's already good against the run is an athletic freak plus his QB pressure numbers were good. Some good coaching and more freedom to pin his ears back for the QB he could be a home run.

Depends how risk adverse you are me I've got a gambling problem 

Outside of Bryce we've pretty much been drafting on RAS during the Tepper era. It hasn't landed us many football players. If we showed up on Sundays and competed with Combine drills we might be able to win some games.

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