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Panthers sign P Sam Martin

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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

the way I see it, we just increased the $ for a punter and got a guy the same age with worse stats.

Explain this so my wife can yell what you type up to me on the roof, where I will be contemplating things.

Best I can tell, We aren’t going to give an old punter guaranteed money while Titans would therefore we had to replace him.  

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P Sam Martin signs with Carolina Panthers

  • 2024 PFF Grade: 67.8
  • Contract: 1 year, $3 million
  • PFF Projected Contract: N/A
  • PFF Deal Grade: Above Average

Martin has been a reliable punter, earning a PFF punting grade above 65.0 in each of the past five seasons. He should be an upgrade over Johnny Hekker, who posted PFF punting grades of 60.2 in 2023 and 53.3 in 2024.

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1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

P Sam Martin signs with Carolina Panthers

  • 2024 PFF Grade: 67.8
  • Contract: 1 year, $3 million
  • PFF Projected Contract: N/A
  • PFF Deal Grade: Above Average

Martin has been a reliable punter, earning a PFF punting grade above 65.0 in each of the past five seasons. He should be an upgrade over Johnny Hekker, who posted PFF punting grades of 60.2 in 2023 and 53.3 in 2024.

yeah but that PFF grade does not take into consideration that Johnny Hekker in 2023 -2024 was punting the ball on average almost 80 times per each season while on the other hand Sam Martin was averaging only about 50 punts per season 

& i am almost certain that a higher volume of punts would in turn most likely lower your overall PFF grade...just saying 

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9 hours ago, therealmjl said:

bruh it's a punter

From App State, where I grew up going to games, watching him punt. Watching Armani dart around and making eventually making Chad Henne look silly, and forcing Michigan to hire Rich Rod in an effort to cash in on the spread option offense. The change in AP Poll rules allowing FCS teams to get votes in the FBS Top 25. 

It’s always big to see someone local on the Panthers, but apparently only Tar Holes and Game Hens get to be homers about it. 
 

Sam Martin is a great NFL punter as well. He’s not Hekker but he’s very, very good. 

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15 hours ago, frankw said:

Same age as Hekker. Based on what I just read on Bills reddit he's been largely average to below average numbers wise. I assume we'll be looking for a long term solution in the not so distant future.

Now to see who our place kicker will be.

Based on the numbers included in the earlier post I don't see how he's largely average top ten in pretty much all punting metrics.

And dude he's a freaking punter 

The average starting punter is 30.5 years old and most play well until 40.

 

 

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2 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Based on the numbers included in the earlier post I don't see how he's largely average top ten in pretty much all punting metrics.

And dude he's a freaking punter 

The average starting punter is 30.5 years old and most play well until 40.

Settle down I'm not arguing he's too old to be a Punter. I'm simply offering information. But it's clear that the team will be planning on going younger at the position in the upcoming future. And that's a good thing.

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4 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

From App State, where I grew up going to games, watching him punt. Watching Armani dart around and making eventually making Chad Henne look silly, and forcing Michigan to hire Rich Rod in an effort to cash in on the spread option offense. The change in AP Poll rules allowing FCS teams to get votes in the FBS Top 25. 

It’s always big to see someone local on the Panthers, but apparently only Tar Holes and Game Hens get to be homers about it. 
 

Sam Martin is a great NFL punter as well. He’s not Hekker but he’s very, very good. 

Gonna give you a pie, but it's Armanti.

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22 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Based on the numbers included in the earlier post I don't see how he's largely average top ten in pretty much all punting metrics.

And dude he's a freaking punter 

The average starting punter is 30.5 years old and most play well until 40.

 

 

I watched a lot of Bills games with my father in law. Martins numbers are down because he didn’t have to punt a lot and when he did he was usually punting into a small box. The Bills rarely go three and out which means he likely usually punted from the 40 or more. 

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