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Dan Morgan pre-draft press conference


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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

That's not gonna go do it. They're going to have to give us that pick 43. 

Honestly, I think that we'll do better than that when someone wants to move in front of New Orleans for Sanders or Dart.

I think Dart is a fantasy scenario, IMO. You would have to be lightspeed stupid as a team to take that dude in the first, much less in the top 10.

I do think Sanders could slide to us, though.

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16 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:
Panthers GM Dan Morgan said Georgia LB Jalon Walker would be a 3-4 linebacker in Carolina’s system.
While Morgan also spent the press conference telling interested teams the Panthers would be willing to move down, it was a little more telling that he spoke about the Georgia LB prospect in such finished terms. He didn’t do so at the combine. The Panthers have widely been perceived as interested in drafting a defender at No. 8 overall and Walker would be a logical fit for them.

What happens if our defense is terrible again and we fire our DC and the next one runs a 4-3?  Does he have the same value then?  Would you still be happy with spending a top 10 pick on him?

It's an odd draft, going defense seems logical.  Walker makes sense from a value/grade perspective but there seems to be some interest in the bigger edges in the draft.  

Problem with the bigger edges is their tape/production might not be top-10 to some people.  

Really feels like we would like to trade down but doesn't really feel like a draft where a lot of teams want to trade up, unless one of the QBs spark some movement.

 

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42 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

What happens if our defense is terrible again and we fire our DC and the next one runs a 4-3?  Does he have the same value then?  Would you still be happy with spending a top 10 pick on him?

It's an odd draft, going defense seems logical.  Walker makes sense from a value/grade perspective but there seems to be some interest in the bigger edges in the draft.  

Problem with the bigger edges is their tape/production might not be top-10 to some people.  

Really feels like we would like to trade down but doesn't really feel like a draft where a lot of teams want to trade up, unless one of the QBs spark some movement.

 

Don't play what if games. 

 

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1 minute ago, shaqattaq said:

Yes, IMO.

Agreed. Especially an edge that can kick inside and play the 3-tech and/or an edge that can reliably drop back into coverage as well.

Those rush packages would have the opposing offensive line in absolute fits. 

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24 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

heard this so many times. only time ive actually seen it is curtis samuel

I don't remember this problem in college. From his draft profile:

 

 

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  • Makes full use of his size and play strength in one-on-one battles.
  • Owns his space and defender’s space when catch is contested.
  • Magnificent timing and extension to snare throws up the ladder.
  • Uses subtle hand fighting to create late landing space for the throw.
  • Powerful hands create added catch security with or without contact.
  • Sneaky burst gear propels vertical separation and run-after-catch speed.
  • Capable combatant when asked to do his part as a blocker.

 

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22 minutes ago, NCBlu said:

I see XL is the new DJ Moore getting hate for not good reason. (Rookie season btw) XL got open that's the hard part, working on his hands can be fixed..

Pretty accurate description of his rookie season. He’s almost ready to shine if he develops which is expected for any player to get somewhat better, he was very close to making big plays last year consistently this year I’d expect him to make those catches this season showing a major boost in his production.

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57 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

heard this so many times. only time ive actually seen it is curtis samuel

Moose Muhammed had suspect hands early in his career and seemed to improve--but my experience is this--some QBs throw a ball that some WRs struggle to catch vs. others.  A tighter spin, more velocity, timing in route--I can't put my finger on it specifically, but in college we had 5 or so qbs and one or two were harder to catch than the others.  In fact, I climbed the depth chart because I could catch the starter (threw it hard) better than others-but the second team QB gave me fits.  Maybe that has something to do with it?

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2 hours ago, Icege said:

Agreed. Especially an edge that can kick inside and play the 3-tech and/or an edge that can reliably drop back into coverage as well.

Those rush packages would have the opposing offensive line in absolute fits. 

Funny enough, that’s how they used Mykel some of the time at UGA (and how him numbers weren’t high) he slid inside - they had Walker and would use guys like Wilson II, Wilson, or Harris across from Walker at the edge on passing downs.

 

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