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Thielen traded

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panthers55 Grand Master

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Morgan said Minnesota called wanting Adam back and he told Thielin about it who said he would be interested n going back there since he has a house there and could end his career at the place he started. Morgan said he would do his best but wouldn't give him away for free. But Adam wanted the trade and Dan accommodated him while trying to get something for him. Dan didn't want to trade him but as a former player he knows how important playing in one place can be. And his respect for Adam compelled him to get the deal done.

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17 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Morgan said Minnesota called wanting Adam back and he told Thielin about it who said he would be interested n going back there since he has a house there and could end his career at the place he started. Morgan said he would do his best but wouldn't give him away for free. But Adam wanted the trade and Dan accommodated him while trying to get something for him. Dan didn't want to trade him but as a former player he knows how important playing in one place can be. And his respect for Adam compelled him to get the deal done.

Absolutely stupid logic.

Lets handicap the team because we respect a player.

Those concussions really did a number on this guy.

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5 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Absolutely stupid logic.

Lets handicap the team because we respect a player.

Those concussions really did a number on this guy.

I don't think Morgan sees it that way. He talked about Adam's mentorship being a key reason he thinks Coker can man the slot and he can make the trade. If he didn't believe in his young core he wouldn't make the trade. He was emphatic is has to benefit the Panthers as well. Adam wasn't expected to be the go to guy this year.

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1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Thielen contemplated retirement last offseason. This was his last year. Belichick used to get mad praise for trading someone before they retired or were a free agent and still had value. That is exactly what Morgan did. It was a gift which fell into Morgan's lap.

Everything ive seen or heard gives credit to Morgan for what we got for him other than a handful of malcontents on the Huddle.

In a vacuum I'd prefer to have Thielen but nothing is in a vacuum 

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On 8/27/2025 at 12:29 PM, Waldo said:

It's time to admit Morgan is not a good GM. 

i wouldn't say that yet. I also wouldn't say he's done anything that makes me think he's particularly good.

i think that's about right for compensation both ways for thielen considering the state of the vikings and Panthers. 

The weirdest thing is that technically the panthers should be adding veteran salary cap right now; they have a high cost first overall qb on a rookie contract; that's the best advantage in the NFL in this day and age. It hasn't worked out because, well, the qb they drafted isn't good and they've ignored other parts of the team to try to bolster him. 

so what's morgan really supposed to do? Are they tanking with a rookie qb in year three that the owner probably personally wanted drafted? Are they actually trying to win games this year with 80 career catches between their top three receivers? The defense is probably going to be terrible. What kind of jump are people actually expecting from Coker, Bryce, XL, and performance from a rookie to overcome that? It's not realistic. 

At the end of the day I don't think Thielen wanted to end his career here and I don't blame him. Minnesota is going to compete this year and Carolina isn't. I also think this is to toss Bryce to the wolves and be done with him one way or another. There's no way this works. This is not a move you make if you're trying to win football games. 

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7 hours ago, electro's horse said:

i wouldn't say that yet. I also wouldn't say he's done anything that makes me think he's particularly good.

i think that's about right for compensation both ways for thielen considering the state of the vikings and Panthers. 

The weirdest thing is that technically the panthers should be adding veteran salary cap right now; they have a high cost first overall qb on a rookie contract; that's the best advantage in the NFL in this day and age. It hasn't worked out because, well, the qb they drafted isn't good and they've ignored other parts of the team to try to bolster him. 

so what's morgan really supposed to do? Are they tanking with a rookie qb in year three that the owner probably personally wanted drafted? Are they actually trying to win games this year with 80 career catches between their top three receivers? The defense is probably going to be terrible. What kind of jump are people actually expecting from Coker, Bryce, XL, and performance from a rookie to overcome that? It's not realistic. 

At the end of the day I don't think Thielen wanted to end his career here and I don't blame him. Minnesota is going to compete this year and Carolina isn't. I also think this is to toss Bryce to the wolves and be done with him one way or another. There's no way this works. This is not a move you make if you're trying to win football games. 

Keeping Dalton and then shiping off AT with that WR room is just backwards IMO. 

As for throwing Young to the wolves, well that was happening anyways. There just aren't any more excuses that can be made there. 

Then there is building around Evero which was an extreamly stupid approach this year. I know people here try to project a switch to 4-3 but that's just cope to me. 

He has showed mostly meh with bad outweighing any good. Loved the player but he isn't very good as a GM.

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Of course theilen wanted to go back, he is aging player on his last legs and there was no benefit for him to be loyal to a team like the panthers. Thats the reality some fans dont want to understand. 

If you really think theilen was that important then we were doomed from the start. 

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9 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Adam Thielen actually requested the trade

on the @KyleBaileyClub show, Dan Morgan mentions #Panthers didn’t want to move him but also they didn’t want to stand in his way. Thielen told him, "this is what I want, this is where I want to go"
https://x.com/justblande/status/1961410856308125853?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

That's the only explanation that makes any sense.  And it's completely understandable.

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