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OFFICIAL Week 1: Panthers @ Jaguars Game Day Thread


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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The wildest thing about Bryce to me is that he really was the near consensus #1 QB available that year and I went back and watched a LOT of gameplay and came back saying "HOW?!" I'm watching receivers getting wide ass open and Bryce floating wounded ducks down the field and I'm like what is everyone seeing in this QB that I'm missing because I'm not seeing anything here that will translate to the NFL.

I never saw it either.  I’m convinced he just had some masterful marketing and PR.  Because I remember them talking about if he could’ve came out after his sophomore season - the first he became the starter, he would’ve been the #1 overall pick.  And again, that was still Saban- coached teams where they had a mismatch in their favor at every fuging position, especially the line - which allowed him to run around for an hour and a half until a guy running a 4.3 finally breaks his route off, makes an easy, wide open catch and runs into the end zone.  Bryce was always hype.  I don’t know who his “team” is, but those MFs are excellent at their job.  I certainly hope he is paying them well, because they deserve it.

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Just now, Castavar said:

Then you go watch CJ Stroud slice through an HISTORICALLY good Georgia defense and it should have been an obvious pick. Even if you ranked them 1a and 1b, you go with the bigger QB with the NFL size. That pick will always baffle me. Tepper no doubt in my mind drove that Bryce pick

It wasn't just size for me. Everyone got hung up on the size but I just didn't see anything physically that translated. I didn't see good NFL scrambling speed and I thought the arm talent concern was almost as glaring as the size concern.

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3 minutes ago, RJK said:

It's hilarious fans are hanging their hat on bryce having 3 good games in two years at the end of a lost season. What about the other 33 1/4 games?

Those fans just don't want to admit that we made one of the worst trades in NFL history and picked the wrong QB. The same reason ownership just can't let go of their decision. 

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8 minutes ago, frankw said:

We need to put an end to the knock down drag out fights over this. We hope Bryce figures it out quickly but it's his third season. And it isn't just Bryce's job that's on the line here. His play affects the rest of the roster and other players careers. And it makes it even worse that our org made zero effort to put any level of competition in the QB room. We have to start being a serious franchise. It's time for new life in the QB room beginning with the upcoming draft. From there let them compete.

early but who in the upcoming class are you watching for? I know all eyez are on Arch but ive heard mixed things

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