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Not on Bryce

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14 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

He also says Bryce is a game manager, not a game changer

been watching his podcast as long as he has had one  

what isnt said, and should be,  we all understand his limitations limit the playbook

dart looks a million times better in his first career stsrt than bryce has in his career and its not like the giants are world beaters 

the panthers made a major error in his evaluation  it is time yo move on

 

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What fuging company that is. Good lord. Being at the bottom of that list says everything. LOL

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Lets cherry pick some plays to make a point.... the point is Bryce is limited in every part of his game..we've seen it going on 3 years...the analytics are against him.  Canales is part of the problem, Morgan is part of the problem... How Evero still has a job is beyond me... and Dipper is the Bryce of NFL owners... so thats pretty much why we suck.

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1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

He also says Bryce is a game manager, not a game changer

been watching his podcast as long as he has had one  

what isnt said, and should be,  we all understand his limitations limit the playbook

dart looks a million times better in his first career stsrt than bryce has in his career and its not like the giants are world beaters 

the panthers made a major error in his evaluation  it is time yo move on

 

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dayum!!!

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2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I literally stopped on the second play after watching the entire Pats secondary just run underneath all of the receivers BECAUSE THEY  ARE DARING HIM TO fuging THROW OVER THE TOP AND HE CANT.🤣😂😂😂

and this douchenozzle says, “and so yeah, you can see right there the panthers want to keep it short and sweet” to excuse it.  No, dickhead, we don’t,  we don’t have a fuging choice.

How the concept of Bryce physically limiting the playbook escapes these people is crazy lol. 

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly most modern NFL offenses revolve around the short passing game with the ball coming out fast but you need the threat of the deep ball to make that work. The threat of the deep ball is vital. You just don't have it with Bryce. You can essentially defend the entire field like it's the redzone.

Defend the boundary numbers out, shallow zone in the middle of the field with safeties playing two deep and tell your rushers to close lanes. He will get antsy in the pocket and move his feet. He's toast after that because it's just wait for the 2-5 yard throw to the outside and since the defense coverage should be pushing outside the numbers towards the boundary you've got players to go after the runner to limit YAC.

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3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

andy reid moved on from a slightly bigger version of bryce in Alex smith, he doesnt want poo to do with young

yes Andy Reid would not start Bryce Young at Qb

Bryce Young  will never see the field again as a starting Qb in the NFL once he departs / leaves Carolina 

 i think some people forget BY will have to earn the starting job somewhere else.its not going to be the same situation as in Carolina where he is the starting Qb because of where he was drafted

...just saying my crystal ball is on point

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Bryce has been discussed so much it feels like shouting into a storm at this point but the bottom line is Bryce is not physically gifted enough to be a difference making QB (i.e. Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, etc). His best possible outcome is a high level game manager (Brock Purdy esque and yes Brock can make some throws Bryce can't)

If Bryce does not have elite talent at the receiver position/o-line and has an average scheme/OC/HC, he will not succeed. 

Now ALL of that being said Bryce was part of the problem yesterday but he wasn't the ONLY problem. 

It is very reasonable to argue that because QB is the most important position on the field that Bryce is our number one problem rn. But the coaching is also a huge issue. This team is largely average to below average in terms of talent at nearly every position. I see three Pro Bowl caliber players on this roster right now, which simply put is not good enough. 

 

You want to improve this roster? I don't disagree QB could be upgraded, but in addition to that I believe we also need a new HC as well then and need a major injection of talent across the roster. Very, very hard to do all of that in one offseason 

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18 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Bryce has been discussed so much it feels like shouting into a storm at this point but the bottom line is Bryce is not physically gifted enough to be a difference making QB (i.e. Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, etc). His best possible outcome is a high level game manager (Brock Purdy esque and yes Brock can make some throws Bryce can't)

If Bryce does not have elite talent at the receiver position/o-line and has an average scheme/OC/HC, he will not succeed. 

Now ALL of that being said Bryce was part of the problem yesterday but he wasn't the ONLY problem. 

It is very reasonable to argue that because QB is the most important position on the field that Bryce is our number one problem rn. But the coaching is also a huge issue. This team is largely average to below average in terms of talent at nearly every position. I see three Pro Bowl caliber players on this roster right now, which simply put is not good enough. 

 

You want to improve this roster? I don't disagree QB could be upgraded, but in addition to that I believe we also need a new HC as well then and need a major injection of talent across the roster. Very, very hard to do all of that in one offseason 

I don't think Canales is going anywhere anytime soon as long as Dan Morgan is GM & yes i agree Canales is a big  part of the overall problem & has no business being an NFL head coach .

however , how are you going to upgrade talent with the same person who assembled the least talented roster in the NFL ?

this team needs to simply  hire a new GM 

until then it's going to be much of the same even if you replace Canales & Bryce Young  ...just saying 

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3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Andy is about the only coach who would put up with his awful mechanics as long as he could produce on the field. I didn't say Young could do it.

Bryce won't play another game after this season, for anyone.

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