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Not on Bryce


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Pretty much what I said yesterday, this team fielded one of the worst rosters in franchise history Sunday and they expect Bryce (who is not that type of QB) to somehow carry them. The pass protection is horrible, the receivers are horrible and the running game was non existent. Everyone wants us to throw deep when our fastest WR yesterday runs a 4.6. For the third season in a row we have the slowest WR core in the league this team refuses to draft speed on offense.

 

And I agree Canales and Bryce really don’t fit from a scheme perspective, Bryce needs a Sean Payton or Mike Mcdaniels type, Canales wants a gun slinger, they need to find the happy medium. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

He also says Bryce is a game manager, not a game changer

been watching his podcast as long as he has had one  

what isnt said, and should be,  we all understand his limitations limit the playbook

dart looks a million times better in his first career stsrt than bryce has in his career and its not like the giants are world beaters 

the panthers made a major error in his evaluation  it is time yo move on

 

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i really thought joey was gonna be something  not sure what happened to him

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We get it. It's only on Bryce when it goes well.

So which NFL QB wouldn't everyone take over Bryce at this point? Which staff would help him with alm we know? There is no one that runs the scheme Bryce requires to function well because those are all in school. There is no one that can overcome his limitations in that scheme regularly in the NFL. But it's never on Bryce...

I am so tired of having a QB that has to be carried constantly or play a team that's asleep. 

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6 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Pretty much what I said yesterday, this team fielded one of the worst rosters in franchise history Sunday and they expect Bryce (who is not that type of QB) to somehow carry them. The pass protection is horrible, the receivers are horrible and the running game was non existent. Everyone wants us to throw deep when our fastest WR yesterday runs a 4.6. For the third season in a row we have the slowest WR core in the league this team refuses to draft speed on offense.

 

And I agree Canales and Bryce really don’t fit from a scheme perspective, Bryce needs a Sean Payton or Mike Mcdaniels type, Canales wants a gun slinger, they need to find the happy medium. 

 

 

No disrespect to you, but this is exactly the point.  Then maybe you don’t trade up and draft this guy #1 and then give him three years to further run your franchise into the ground simply because you have an affinity for him as a person?  You don’t draft QBs that need to be “carried” by their team in the first round, and you definitely don’t draft them #1 overall.  And you definitely should cut your losses when you realize that’s what they are.

and slow or not, Bryce has missed or poorly placed countless deep throws this year when the receiver beat their coverage.  He did it again Sunday.  You don’t have to be a burner to get open downfield.  But again, all this pressure is placed on everyone else to be flawless because their QB is ass.  What’s easier?   Having a horrible QB and acquiring 10 above average players to surround him with?  Or finding even an above average QB who can make the 10 guys around him, most of whom might be average, better than they actually are?  That’s why I’ve never understood this strategy the team took by drafting him in the first place.  The amount of resources and assets it takes to accommodate him is unreal.

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11 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

No disrespect to you, but this is exactly the point.  Then maybe you don’t trade up and draft this guy #1 and then give him three years to further run your franchise into the ground simply because you have an affinity for him as a person?  You don’t draft QBs that need to be “carried” by their team in the first round, and you definitely don’t draft them #1 overall.  And you definitely should cut your losses when you realize that’s what they are.

and slow or not, Bryce has missed or poorly placed countless deep throws this year when the receiver beat their coverage.  He did it again Sunday.  You don’t have to be a burner to get open downfield.  But again, all this pressure is placed on everyone else to be flawless because their QB is ass.  What’s easier?   Having a horrible QB and acquiring 10 above average players to surround him with?  Or finding even an above average QB who can make the 10 guys around him, most of whom might be average, better than they actually are?  That’s why I’ve never understood this strategy the team took by drafting him in the first place.  The amount of resources and assets it takes to accommodate him is unreal.

Posted this before but for 2025 our salary cap spending on the offense versus the defense is comically lopsided. We have invested a great deal just to try and make this kid look even mediocre and he can't do it.

https://overthecap.com/positional-spending

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What I saw in Sunday was a team that has given up.  No, it’s not all on Bryce but his play does not inspire confidence from his teammates.  After watching Horns interview I feel like it is pretty obvious, plus when Andy came in the offense seemed to fly around and no I am absolutely NOT saying Andy should start.  At this point let Bryce sink himself, trade value is zero anyway.

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