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Any well functioning team benches Bryce


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2 minutes ago, NAS said:

Defense forced Panthers to run and they did. Great performance by Dowdle to take advantage 

Bryce Young at QB forced the Panthers to run. After watching that comedy show of a fumble and the INT, yeah you're gonna start force feeding the run. It just actually worked.

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Bryce had a mediocre game overall but showed resilience in the end.

Unfortunately you need more than resilience to win consistently in the NFL and he just doesn't have that.

Put D gave up 10 points outside of turnovers...

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2 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Didn’t even get 200 yards against a really bad secondary. Dude just isn’t the guy you want leading your offense. Hopefully he can play good enough that someone wants to trade for him.

Miami is known for having a terrible run defense and we took advantage.  

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8 minutes ago, Alemanders said:

Bruh I get it, but you have to give him credit for turning it around in the game and not give up.

He didn’t turn it around.  After he imploded they phased him out and a career performance by Rico got us back into the game doing the absurd.  

this is the Bryce problem.  The mental gymnastics on him.  He is bad.  He has showed that all 5 starts this year.  NOTHING has been more consistent

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

He didn’t turn it around.  After he imploded they phased him out and a career performance by Rico got us back into the game doing the absurd.  

this is the Bryce problem.  The mental gymnastics on him.  He is bad.  He has showed that all 5 starts this year.  NOTHING has been more consistent

every game we have to try to win with one arm tied to one leg. Young is the literal handicap. 

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2 minutes ago, NAS said:

Miami is known for having a terrible run defense and we took advantage.  

20th ranked passing D, 30th ranked rushing D... Both pretty bad 

We're 10th and 23rd ranked for context, given how much people poo on our passing D lol.

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1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

Decent game. I still want him benched and off the team. Way too inconsistent. 

My issue too. Even his better games, outside of basically Atlanta end of last year, at highly inconsistent within the game...

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