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Kudos to Bryce Young

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mav1234 Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Your expectations aren't realistic. No QB makes every throw in any game. Watch KC play right now. Let me know how many passes you think Mahomes could have made but didn't. Heck we saw Josh Allen miss passes against Carolina a couple of weeks ago. 

Every QB misses passes.

Bryce Young just happens to miss a ton more when he's playing teams other than Atlanta.

But he made plenty today and had a great game overall.

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2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Your expectations aren't realistic. No QB makes every throw in any game. Watch KC play right now. Let me know how many passes you think Mahomes could have made but didn't. Heck we saw Josh Allen miss passes against Carolina a couple of weeks ago. 

In no world do I expect him to make every throw in a game, at all.

But it's that there are certain types of throws that he just flat out can't make, and he had a number of them again today.

That's what concerns me, not that he wasn't perfect, but that we continue to see him try to thread the ball into windows when he needs to be driving it, but he's just unable to drive those throws in that way.

And again, I give him full credit for having his best game of his career, I'm not out here saying he played bad today, not at all.  But it's still just a fact that he doesn't have an NFL arm and that fact alone is why I hope we move on from him this offseason.

It's like how people say a golfer has every shot in his bag.

The Bryce equivalent would be that he can only make half the shots that professional golfers need to be able to make.

Sure, you could still go out there and play a great round, maybe win a tournament.  But that doesn't mean it's a golfer I'm going to make a long term bet on.

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

In no world do I expect him to make every throw in a game, at all.

But it's that there are certain types of throws that he just flat out can't make, and he had a number of them again today.

That's what concerns me, not that he wasn't perfect, but that we continue to see him try to thread the ball into windows when he needs to be driving it, but he's just unable to drive those throws in that way.

And again, I give him full credit for having his best game of his career, I'm not out here saying he played bad today, not at all.  But it's still just a fact that he doesn't have an NFL arm and that fact alone is why I hope we move on from him this offseason.

It's like how people say a golfer has every shot in his bag.

The Bryce equivalent would be that he can only make half the shots that professional golfers need to be able to make.

Sure, you could still go out there and play a great round, maybe win a tournament.  But that doesn't mean it's a golfer I'm going to make a long term bet on.

To continue the golf analogy, a heard a pro say that the average scratch golfer can hit some shots as good as the pros, but their bad shots were way worse than the pros bad shots. Bryce’s mistakes are often catastrophic 

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4 minutes ago, CBird said:

This was the best game that Bryce Young has ever played.  Congrats to him!  Love the panthers got the win!  I still wish he was a Josh Allen or Cam Newton caliber player, but that said got to give him his props today.

100% give him his props, he earned it today.

But it's the same thing I've said all season long when pointing out concerning things after wins.

If you (and by you, I more mean the team) just stick your head in the sand over real concerns, just because we won (or even because he did have his best game as a pro yet), then it's only going to cause problems down the line.  

Great game, full credit, but I think the game on the whole was more fools gold than a breakthrough.  Get upset at me for saying it, I know most people will, but just my objective perspective.

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