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+the #Panthers were more interested in Thieneman than Sadiq
+Carolina liked Freeling and Proctor
+Idzik stayed up late with Canales to help with prepare for the Ravens offensive coordinator job a few years ago 
+Person doesn’t see the scheme changing with Idzik calling plays 
+Panthers didn’t see nickel as a priority 
+Wheatley probs won’t play nickel 
+Bryce Young extension should average 33 million a year
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Uh... Bryce Young extension?

This shouldn't even be remotely on the table right now.  Hell, the Texans haven't even engaged Stroud in an extension discussion yet and he's played miles better than Bryce has during their careers so far.

I swear, he's going to show the bare minimum of improvement this year, the front office is going to say it's showing he's still getting better, and going to sign him to a stupidly large extension that is only going to set us back another 5+ years when he never even approaches being an above average QB and we have to replace him a few more years down the line.

And to people who say, "well $33 million would be a bargain in today's market"....

Who cares if it's a bargain if the player isn't good enough to make you a contending team?

I'd rather over pay for an elite QB than get a below average starter on a bargain.  All getting the 25th best QB in the league at a bargain cost will do is mean you're losing while saving money on your QB.

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28 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Uh... Bryce Young extension?

This shouldn't even be remotely on the table right now.  Hell, the Texans haven't even engaged Stroud in an extension discussion yet and he's played miles better than Bryce has during their careers so far.

I swear, he's going to show the bare minimum of improvement this year, the front office is going to say it's showing he's still getting better, and going to sign him to a stupidly large extension that is only going to set us back another 5+ years when he never even approaches being an above average QB and we have to replace him a few more years down the line.

And to people who say, "well $33 million would be a bargain in today's market"....

Who cares if it's a bargain if the player isn't good enough to make you a contending team?

I'd rather over pay for an elite QB than get a below average starter on a bargain.  All getting the 25th best QB in the league at a bargain cost will do is mean you're losing while saving money on your QB.

As someone who wanted Stroud over Bryce, Stroud was an absolute Trainwreck last year. He had a dominant defense and all he needed to do was not be god awful. Sadly he was more times than not

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13 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

As someone who wanted Stroud over Bryce, Stroud was an absolute Trainwreck last year. He had a dominant defense and all he needed to do was not be god awful. Sadly he was more times than not

I mean Stroud had a down year, but it was still better than Bryces best year

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I had been on that Freeling/Proctor train as well. These mammoth athletic tackles don’t grow on trees. Once you were out of say…the top 10 or so picks. The sum of what either of these guys could be is so much greater than a safety or some slot who never had a 1,000 yd season. I’m sure the Jets and Browns went with the right guys lol, but glad our FO could see the ceilings.

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25 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

I had been on that Freeling/Proctor train as well. These mammoth athletic tackles don’t grow on trees. Once you were out of say…the top 10 or so picks. The sum of what either of these guys could be is so much greater than a safety or some slot who never had a 1,000 yd season. I’m sure the Jets and Browns went with the right guys lol, but glad our FO could see the ceilings.

I much prefer Freeling to Proctor. Dude has lead feet. 

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If we extend Bryce on a franchise QB contract I'll check put as a Panthers fan until the nightmare is over. I'll just go back to being a general football fan and tuning into the most interesting games of the day. Hell, I've been halfway there for years. For years I've been alf ass watching the Panthers on one screen while watching other games on other screens.

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