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The decline of Cam Newtons


raleigh-panther

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3 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Is mighty hard to watch in person 

sadness

i feel sadness

 it is clear they are sitting in the short routes and taking  mccafrey away

and newton can do nothing 

He needs to eat some damn steak.  Vegan has made him a pussy 

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2 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Is mighty hard to watch in person 

sadness

i feel sadness

 it is clear they are sitting in the short routes and taking  mccafrey away

and newton can do nothing 

Yep.  Troy acted like he didn’t know why Cam double clutched that one pass and then incompleted it out of desperation to CMC...Buc defender was jumping the route.  Cam at least saw it. 

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3 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

oh my god just go away. you do this every year. have you sold your PSLs like you've threatened every year since the bush presidency?

Based on the evidence so far, he’s not lying.  I hope Cam comes out in the second aid and throws for 200 and runs for 80. But as of now he just doesn’t seem like the Cam we know.  

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3 minutes ago, Mage said:

Even if Newton is declining, I could never hold it against him.  He’s been amazing for us throughout his career, he deserved a better offense sooner.

So true. The org failed him. They thought he would be around forever. No urgency. The team really lucked into 2015 in many ways.

 

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