Panthers will draft Justin Herbert

[SOJA]

I don't want Herbert, but I'd be fine with Tua

however...

I've been banging this drum for weeks. This is what makes the most sense, given this wacky offseason. Here's a hypothetical timeline of events. 

Combine: Panthers go into thinking they are going to absolutely tank and draft a QB in 2021. Combine rumors reveal that one of Herbert or Tua will be available at 7

Panthers: wait what if we don't tank, get a bridge QB, fill holes with cheap one to two year deals and have our books be clean as hell in two years when our young QB has had time to learn and is entering his prime and on a rookie deal (a la LAR). 

 

I'm not saying this is a good strategy but this offseason has been so weird and random that this makes the most sense. If you truly believe in one of those guys then it makes sense to not tank next year. 

 

I'd be willing to put money on we draft a QB as option one, trade down as option two

[JARROD]

7 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

There's 31 other GM's that agree.

I don’t know why you haters can’t be real. There was no attempt to trade until the last minute. No trade could happen without him being cleared to play.  

they waited 8 days into free agency to release him.

the Panthers slapped on the Vaseline.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/25/yes-the-panthers-made-it-harder-for-cam-newton-to-find-a-new-team/amp/

 

[Black&BlueBubba]

So with the new “not tanking” direction I am not so sure we would be in position next year to get Lawrence or Fields.  Although while I think we may try to be competitive I just don’t see that happening this year.  
I would be fine with grabbing Herbert or Love if they think they are possible franchise QB’s.  If for some reason we are there for Lawrence or Fields next year we can either select them or trade for a  King’s  ransom if Herbert or Love show some promise.  
 

I know this much.  I have no idea what direction we will go at #7.  While the rest of the draft may be defense heavy, #7 is a mystery. 
 

But for the god sake don’t trade up with the amount of holes we have.  

[Call Me James]

6 hours ago, DeeJay said:

hey look another clown!

Is the defense better? 

Have we upgraded the offensive line in any meaningful way? 

The only changes of note that we've made is we swapped one OL position of relative strength for another while also losing a starter. 

The other is that Teddy Bridgewater is an upgrade over KA and WG. 

 

[saX man]

If we're going by our public flirting (pre-global pandemic), then our top 3 are Derrick Brown, Jerry Jeudy and Justin Herbert. 

There's always more to it though.  You have to imagine Okudah and Simmons are getting some interest. 

Wonder if teams are making calls to prospects during these trying times to interview via skype/ft?

[Jeremy Igo]

I don't think they will. They roll with Teddy for a year or two and buy time on drafting a guy they really like in round 1. 

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

I don’t know why you haters can’t be real. There was no attempt to trade until the last minute. No trade could happen without him being cleared to play.  

they waited 8 days into free agency to release him.

the Panthers slapped on the Vaseline.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/25/yes-the-panthers-made-it-harder-for-cam-newton-to-find-a-new-team/amp/

 

Did you actually read that whole article? It’s trash. It’s premise is he should have been released early like Olsen and says the Panthers should have figured Cam would have no interest once he was up walking around. They should have FIGURED. Uh, no.

They treated Cam as an asset. They waited for that moment because he may have some worth. Just because no one was interested when he was in a cast rolling around doesn’t mean no one would be interested when he was up and about.

The Panthers did, to a large extent, what everyone on this forum flames them for not doing. Seeking to get something in return until the last minute.

The article defends Cam as a person and player. Yes, we may have hurt his feelings and Greg’s too. I don’t blame them, the last FO gave our players this family atmosphere pampering and made then soft and whiny. Countless examples.

All players should know this is a business. It’s a business when they don’t sign those team friendly deals isn’t it? Olsen should know it’s a business when his chapped ass is going to whine to the FO for more money shouldn’t he?

FO did nothing wrong, it’s a business. They wanted something in return.

[d-dave]

I'd rather not draft a QB this year.  We just signed two new QBs.  We need to feel them out.  Adding a #7 over all rookie to that mix is a recipe for disaster.  On the flip side, adding an elite DT, Defensive Athlete who can do it all, a top flight CB, etc only helps any QB we have for the next five years.

[hepcat]

1 minute ago, onmyown said:

Did you actually read that whole article? It’s trash. It’s premise is he should have been released early like Olsen and says the Panthers should have figured Cam would have no interest once he was up walking around. They should have FIGURED. Uh, no.

They treated Cam as an asset. They waited for that moment because he may have some worth. Just because no one was interested when he was in a cast rolling around doesn’t mean no one would be interested when he was up and about.

The Panthers did, to a large extent, what everyone on this forum flames them for not doing. Seeking to get something in return until the last minute.

The article defends Cam as a person and player. Yes, we may have hurt his feelings and Greg’s too. I don’t blame them, the last FO gave our players this family atmosphere pampering and made then soft and whiny. Countless examples.

All players should know this is a business. It’s a business when they don’t sign those team friendly deals isn’t it? Olsen should know it’s a business when his chapped ass is going to whine to the FO for more money shouldn’t he?

FO did nothing wrong, it’s a business. They wanted something in return.

I do agree that we have one of the whiniest fanbases in the NFL and people are WAAAAYYY too attached to certain players. We have great memories from Cam and Olsen and many others. But the nature of the NFL is to get old, injured, ineffective, and you're let go. These guys are alpha males who don't have a good grasp on when they shouldn't play NFL football anymore. Kuechly is a rare example of hanging it up at the right time. 

[rippadonn]

11 hours ago, WOW!! said:

And it maybe next season.. I don't understand why ppl think this team is going to be a juggernaut.. We literally are building a defense from scratch... That's doesn't say winning team.. It is going to take a unbelievably offense to carry this defense this year..  Unless TB becomes Mahomes we will be in position to get a QB next year in a better QB draft...

If you draft a QB high this year.. Its a good chance you're drafting his replacement next year... Plain and simple...

Yeah, I'm a Hornets fan also, that tanking stuff never works out like you think and you risk making your franchise a real bottom feeder trying.

What Tepper doesn't understand is that the NFL at most levels is a fraternity. Players talk to each other. Your reputation matters. JR was a former player who was from the hospitality industry.

Tepper is from a basically no rules cutthroat business in which service to others is not priority. He served a select few. This bad reputation he's building may work against what his coach is doing or what fans want and may ultimately lead to the failure everybody wants in order to pick up Trevor.

I'd much rather hedge my bets though.

[SOJA]

27 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

I don't think they will. They roll with Teddy for a year or two and buy time on drafting a guy they really like in round 1. 

But there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that they might really like one of those guys this year and he might be available at 7

[Growl]

26 minutes ago, d-dave said:

I'd rather not draft a QB this year.  We just signed two new QBs.  We need to feel them out.  Adding a #7 over all rookie to that mix is a recipe for disaster.  On the flip side, adding an elite DT, Defensive Athlete who can do it all, a top flight CB, etc only helps any QB we have for the next five years.

agreed, Garett Gilbert was a star in the esteemed alliance of American football, I'd like to see I make at run at him to round out our QB room rather than wasting a 1st round pick on a position as overrated as QB. Hopefully we go OG instead. Quarterbacks may win super bowls, but hog mollies win PFF's preseason all NFL OL rankings.

 

Hopefully this XFL guy wins the job and we have a competent game manager who can do some nice things and is a guy we really think can perform serviceably under the right circumstances for at least 5 seasons.

[CPF4LIFE]

No thanks

[Anybodyhome]

16 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

Criteria: one's career is better than the other's.

In other words, you're clueless.