ncfan 10,990 Posted Thursday at 02:28 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:28 AM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jared Patterson 384 Posted Thursday at 02:30 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:30 AM Why not just hire both? Tepper has plenty of money to hire a Peters and then a strong analytical guy to be his assistant. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adb6368 1,603 Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM But tepper said disagreement is a good thing! A little discomfort is great! What could go wrong! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brooklyn 3.0 706 Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM AKA Rhule wants one of his buddies. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Scot 68,256 Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:31 AM Yeah, Person commented on it on WFNZ yesterday. It had been hinted at previously by Albert Breer as well. Given the makeup of the final GM candidates though, I'd say it looks like Matt Rhule won that argument. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Actionman0z 351 Posted Thursday at 02:35 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:35 AM Just pick one already, got damnn.. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moo Daeng 4,305 Posted Thursday at 02:36 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:36 AM All final candidates are scouts. Dont fal for the media drama. Just another regurgitation of the same speculation that proved to be wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Huddler 15,142 Posted Thursday at 02:41 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:41 AM As long as Rhule has the final say, Its all good. a bunch of yes men in the room helps nothing let Rhule rebuild the franchise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SizzleBuzz 146 Posted Thursday at 03:26 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:26 AM 45 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said: ...I'd say it looks like Matt Rhule won that argument. You can be assured Rhule will never once force Tepper to do something he doesn't want to do. Let's see who actually gets hired and what sort of skill-set bring with them before we make proclamations which are convenient to the narrative supporting the archaic NFL model that so many seem petrified to depart from... Tepper from 12/21/20: "I'm trying to figure out what should be the right structure for an organization today," he said. "Just because there's been the same structure in the NFL forever in a lot of places doesn't mean it should be the same structure now." "Absolutely you have the GM evaluating player personnel and involved collaboratively with the head coach and also with some input going both ways between coach and GM. I want input running freely throughout the organization with people working together." "...Marty and I had a little bit of difference in philosophy. He leaned toward more traditional techniques versus a more data-driven, analytical process, but I think some marrying of that would be more in line." ------------------------ There's a new model in town boys... ...The Appaloosa Model -- and it's a proven winner!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daddy_Uncle 9,307 Posted Thursday at 03:31 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:31 AM Oh look the huddle is going to make more of something than it needs to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SizzleBuzz 146 Posted Thursday at 03:57 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:57 AM (edited) Description of the role of analytics within the Patriots & Titans organizations: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS The Kraft family’s business-driven approach to running a franchise encompasses analytics—evident by the advent of the Jessica Gelman-led Kraft Analytics group—and the team has been analytics-heavy in cap management since they bought the team. Bill Belichick uses 64-year-old ex-Wall Street trader Ernie Adams in that area. And while the team is seen as an innovator, it’s not like there’s a large football analytics staff. Rather, the coaches and scouts are all responsible for integrating data provided for them into their work. Belichick is known for giving members of his football staff projects that would fall under the analytics heading. TENNESSEE TITANS GM Jon Robinson has set this up very much in the image of the Patriots’ operation—scouts and coaches are responsible for integrating data into the work. And the belief in Nashville holds that the data has been effective in making the personnel staff and coaches more efficient, and creating a backstop against decisions when the scouting and analytics don’t match up. So are they believers? Enough so to the point where two scouting assistants with analytics backgrounds were recently hired. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/06/28/nfl-analytics-front-office-old-school-approach-draft-game-planning-charting --------------------------------------- Clearly Monti Ossenfort would arrive well schooled and operationally adept at all thing analytics. He also possesses the best academic resume of the finalists with 2 different Masters Degrees to complement his undergraduate degree in Economics and Management. Edited Thursday at 04:00 AM by SizzleBuzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fox007 7,337 Posted Thursday at 06:40 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:40 PM Uhhh yea we should fuging get someone who can scout lol....like wtf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rippadonn 1,808 Posted Thursday at 06:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:49 PM Yeah, remember Rich Cho and his computer? No thanks. Football is football. Not technology not stocks. I'm on Rhules side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monrowed 145 Posted Thursday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:51 PM 14 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said: Description of the role of analytics within the Patriots & Titans organizations: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS The Kraft family’s business-driven approach to running a franchise encompasses analytics—evident by the advent of the Jessica Gelman-led Kraft Analytics group—and the team has been analytics-heavy in cap management since they bought the team. Bill Belichick uses 64-year-old ex-Wall Street trader Ernie Adams in that area. And while the team is seen as an innovator, it’s not like there’s a large football analytics staff. Rather, the coaches and scouts are all responsible for integrating data provided for them into their work. Belichick is known for giving members of his football staff projects that would fall under the analytics heading. TENNESSEE TITANS GM Jon Robinson has set this up very much in the image of the Patriots’ operation—scouts and coaches are responsible for integrating data into the work. And the belief in Nashville holds that the data has been effective in making the personnel staff and coaches more efficient, and creating a backstop against decisions when the scouting and analytics don’t match up. So are they believers? Enough so to the point where two scouting assistants with analytics backgrounds were recently hired. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/06/28/nfl-analytics-front-office-old-school-approach-draft-game-planning-charting --------------------------------------- Clearly Monti Ossenfort would arrive well schooled and operationally adept at all thing analytics. He also possesses the best academic resume of the finalists with 2 different Masters Degrees to complement his undergraduate degree in Economics and Management. Does anyone know what Belichick’s major was in college? if you think that it had something to do with coaching or education, then you would be wrong. It was in fact Economics... which is a out of the box statistical and analytics based science. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SizzleBuzz 146 Posted Thursday at 07:48 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:48 PM 54 minutes ago, Monrowed said: Does anyone know what Belichick’s major was in college? if you think that it had something to do with coaching or education, then you would be wrong. It was in fact Economics... which is a out of the box statistical and analytics based science. Monti was an Econ major too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Scot 68,256 Posted Thursday at 07:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:54 PM 1 hour ago, Monrowed said: Does anyone know what Belichick’s major was in college? if you think that it had something to do with coaching or education, then you would be wrong. It was in fact Economics... which is a out of the box statistical and analytics based science. So far I think the stats are telling him he's not very good without Tom Brady. Honestly, if you looked at the degrees of head coaches and general managers across the league, you'll find a lot of variety. Which is no shock. It's not like there are any colleges out there offering a major in football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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