Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

NFL execs: it’s going to take 3 first rounders at least for DeShaun Watson.


Recommended Posts

Just a 'best case' scenario here for us on an upward trajectory...

Pick #8 in 2021 - CMC level

Pick #24 in 2022 - Shaq level

Pick #28 in 2023 - Vernon Butler level

 

If you wouldn't trade those 3 players for a Top 5 franchise QB, welp.  And yes, we could draft HOF unicorns with all 3 of those firsts, just like we could draft Ryan Leaf level busts for the next 3 drafts.  If the price is 3 1st rounders and that's it, no brainer call it in.  If it's 3 firsts AND players, then it's a potential issue. 

 

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Just a 'best case' scenario here for us on an upward trajectory...

Pick #8 in 2021 - CMC level

Pick #24 in 2022 - Shaq level

Pick #28 in 2023 - Vernon Butler level

 

If you wouldn't trade those 3 players for a Top 5 franchise QB, welp.  And yes, we could draft HOF unicorns with all 3 of those firsts, just like we could draft Ryan Leaf level busts for the next 3 drafts.  If the price is 3 1st rounders and that's it, no brainer call it in.  If it's 3 firsts AND players, then it's a potential issue. 

 

That's an interesting take but you also have to consider that you cannot predict where those other 2 first's will fall.  They could just as easily be CMC level as easily as they could be Vernon level.

You could also draft a Pro bowl level QB anywhere in the draft or even an UDFA.  It's a crapshoot.

This is a losers bet by going all in on one player.  

 

  • Pie 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Just a 'best case' scenario here for us on an upward trajectory...

Pick #8 in 2021 - CMC level

Pick #24 in 2022 - Shaq level

Pick #28 in 2023 - Vernon Butler level

 

If you wouldn't trade those 3 players for a Top 5 franchise QB, welp.  And yes, we could draft HOF unicorns with all 3 of those firsts, just like we could draft Ryan Leaf level busts for the next 3 drafts.  If the price is 3 1st rounders and that's it, no brainer call it in.  If it's 3 firsts AND players, then it's a potential issue. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Any conversation that includes vernon Butler as part of a "best case scenario" is flawed.  Great players can be picked anywhere in the draft.  Having a pick between 25 and 32 does not equate to lesser talent.  It often does mean lesser positional value.  Devil's advocate scenerio.

Pick 8 in 2021.  Shutdown corner or gamebreaking new breed MLB that replaces luke.  I.e. Surtain or Parsons.

Pick 19 in 2022.  A left tackle or wr overlooked that becomes class of draft like wirfs or Justin Jefferson this past year.

Pick 28 in 2023.  Overlooked and underappreciated QB slips in draft and turns out to be MVP type.  Like Lamar Jackson.  

Just saying.  Yeah I get it watson is a winning lottery ticket but what if your trading a one time payoff for three winners that could result in a Dynasty.  

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Zod said:

I put some used underwear on facebook marketplace for 10 bucks a pair knowing good and well they would eventually sell for 6

This is why I love capitalism.  An exchange between willing buyers and sellers  sets the free market price for used underwear at $6.  No price supports, no production caps or quotas.  Well done, Jeremy, we’ll done.  [Polite golf clap 👏]

  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • My very UNPOPULAR opinion:   First, I would want to know the locker room.  Have they turned on Canales?  If not, I would stay with him.  Here is why: Switching coaches every year or two is not the answer to long term success.  We are chasing hope instead of building a program around a young coach.  There were not many applicants for this job and if you think they are suddenly dying to be here now, that MIGHT justify a coaching change Canales has made some tough decisions (like benching Bryce), but his weaknesses (the team's weaknesses) have been in the areas in which we have neglected or sucked for years.  Who did we get for CMC?  Who made the trade with the Bears when we had no idea at the time who we wanted?  Who drafted Mingo, Marshall, XL, etc.?  Who signed a frequently-injured CB to the biggest contract in NFL history at the time for a CB?  I look at the personnel decisions and the play calling.  Our edge players are injured and not that good when healthy. He played Johnson because he had nothing left.  Johnson was terrible Sunday.  He has nothing at LB and two starting OL are now out.  XL is pouting because he does not seem to have paid the price to be paid the price of a first round pick.  AT was sent packing.  Bryce's resurgence last year may have been Canales and not Bryce. Evero still does not have the tools he needs to succeed--on the field or perhaps between his ears.   If Canales fires Evero, he is probably doing the right thing.  Remember, we had a lot of money in dead cap when Canales took over.  Fitterer was the worst GM since Matt Millen in the NFL, and we have sucked recently in the first round of the draft (Bryce, XL) until this season.   When the GM is trying to give the coach what he needs to be successful and you keep changing coaches, it is difficult.   I think this--stay with Canales, but bring in a veteran DC.  Some argue that Canales needs to move on from Bryce, but this team is not set up to give him options.  Andy aint the answer.  We never seem to take the PS QB seriously--all eggs are in one basket.  Canales needs options. This team needs to address the QB situation.  Bryce's best games are not Lombardi worthy, so move on.  He is not the Alpha a young coach needs on the field.  Give him options at QB, some LBs and a good coordinator on defense, and I think we could use another stud WR.  It is time to start drafting developmental OL and start grooming them to replace our aging OL. This draft is solid at QB as it stands now.  We need to focus on drafting the right guy and signing a veteran backup who is not the starting QB's BFF.  Compete.  Heck, i have no problem doing what Cleveland did--draft a QB in round 1 and then another QB if one falls into day 3.   I think we need stability and I am not confident any respectable coach comes to Carolina.  Canales is frustrated, but the front office has failed him, as have injuries, and a really bad draft a few years ago that brought them Bryce.  He was hired to fix Bryce--so I say neuter him so he does not sire any more 5'8" QBs.   Canales is better that Rivera was--Canales just has so much less talent.  Rivera was coach of the year a few times because he had Cam Newton, but could never put two winning seasons together.  That is a crime.
    • The Tepper move is 100% to want Belichick thinking that fixes our problems after striking out so much Let's see how much more he can screw up the franchise when JordON and Nicole are assistant GMs
×
×
  • Create New...