ARTICLE: Panthers want to make a run at Deshaun Watson...clearing cap space to do so

[TheMaulClaw]

1 hour ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I’m not a fool, I know you have to have a team around a franchise guy, but comparing the Texans to a normal team isn’t fair either. They did nothing to build around him, as a matter of fact they traded away one of the best WR in the game for peanuts along with other terrible trades. The entire organization was bad from gm, to coaches, to the people they put around Watson. He put up MVP numbers despite how horrible the team was. You plug his numbers into our offense last season and we are easily a playoff team

Hmm maybe we are.  I mean we dont have any OTs at the moment and were losing Samuel. We wont be able to draft legitimate replacements because all of our picks are gone.  I like Deshaun but people on here qcting like Chinn, Burns, and Brown are untouchable...well what do you think 3 first round picks are?  Guys like that on rookie deals.

[WarPanthers89]

19 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Hmm maybe we are.  I mean we dont have any OTs at the moment and were losing Samuel. We wont be able to draft legitimate replacements because all of our picks are gone.  I like Deshaun but people on here qcting like Chinn, Burns, and Brown are untouchable...well what do you think 3 first round picks are?  Guys like that on rookie deals.

Moton is going nowhere, and Tackles are 100x easier to find compared to a top 5 franchise QB. I understand we have holes, but my point is that a teams success starts and ends with a franchise QB. Building a team first compared to getting a franchise QB and building a team around him is the chicken or the egg debate. At the end of the day I can name a lot more talented teams without a franchise guy who can’t make it deep into the playoffs than I can teams with franchise QBs. Watson was the exception to this last year but almost every other team with a franchise QB was in the playoffs last year....the teams without one were not.

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

Baltimore and Tampa both won SBs with middlin QBs.

It's a different game now - you were allowed to play defence back then.

[therealmjl]

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

Baltimore and Tampa both won SBs with middlin QBs.

Yeah, a billion years ago

[The Lobo]

What if the Texans decide not to trade him (which there is a good possibility) and we go into the draft with no Watson? What if we draft someone like Devonta Smith or Surtain? After the draft, or heck, during the season, do you think it’s possible the Texans trade him after finally realizing he won’t play for them? Maybe the Panthers are comfortable waiting it out and rolling into next season wit PJ or something. 

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Yeah, a billion years ago

The Broncos won with a barely mobile quarterback just five years ago.

With that said, we're talking about a formula that's netted teams one Super Bowl under the flukiest of circumstances. Nobody's built a consistent contender that way.

That's not an example I want to see us follow.

[TheProcess]

17 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

What if the Texans decide not to trade him (which there is a good possibility) and we go into the draft with no Watson? What if we draft someone like Devonta Smith or Surtain? After the draft, or heck, during the season, do you think it’s possible the Texans trade him after finally realizing he won’t play for them? Maybe the Panthers are comfortable waiting it out and rolling into next season wit PJ or something. 

In that scenario, hopefully we can trade back and net another 1st rounder next year.  Make our picks hopefully filling a few holes. Continue to stay in touch in case Houston changes their mind. If not, sign a vet to compete with PJ.

If at any time before the season, during the season, or at seasons end they decide to trade Watson, you have two 1st in the 2022 draft. If the 2022 draft arrives without Watson, you have ammo to go up and get Rattler, Shough, or Howell

[JARROD]

Deshaun is a badass. If he and Patrick Mahomes had reversed teams Watson would be an MVP and Super Bowl winner right now instead of Patrick who would be sad, almost forgotten and unhappy. Such is the luck of who drafts you.

Carolina would be so lucky.

[raleigh-panther]

5 hours ago, ncbob said:

I don’t think he would want to come here after we trade away our draft assets and he has to play behind a o-line that can’t protect him. Also we’ll have a defense that gives up 30+ a game cause we traded away our future. How is this attractive to Watson?

It’s not like we can’t add people in free agency and we don’t have rds 2 through 7 left 

[SizzleBuzz]

12 hours ago, USC/panthers_11 said:

I hope Tepper doesn't turn into another meddling owner.

Does the new GM and Rhule really want to tie up their entire future into 1 player? It doesn't seem like a risk they would want to take.

Your fears have already been realized.

They're not really making that call...

[SizzleBuzz]

Recap:

1. Texans contract w/ DW is ironclad, he's locked up thru 2025.

2. There is no scenario where Texans are better off without DW vs. with him.

3. Texans have no obligation to trade DW.

4. Texans won't trade DW.

5. DW does not have the stones to walk from $146,540,000.

The End.

 

[RumHam]

13 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Yes Verge did. I think we will be a major player in the Watson sweepstakes if he becomes available. Tepper seems set on getting who he wants in order to change our franchise around and give the fans some hope. We all know we are going nowhere with Teddy and we desperately need a franchise QB

I thought tepper wanted teddy? For as many first rounders we give up, we better replace each with Lombardi's. Our luck the texans get to super bowl before we do

[uncfan888]

Anyone thay wouldn't take dashaun on this team is insane. No matter the cost... You have to have a franchise qb. And he's one of the absolute best

[LinvilleGorge]

8 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

Baltimore and Tampa both won SBs with middlin QBs.

When you have to go back 20 years it might not be relevant anymore.