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5 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

The Zaven Collins weight is worrisome IMO. He is a phenomenal upright player and plays well in space. But he is officially being looked at as a tweener at 270. Normally, a tweener would be because of the in-between of size, but in his case he IS the size of a DE but he PLAYS like a linebacker. Maybe looking at Anthony Barr as a model to follow is the best way to figure out who he can be.

Personally, I LOVE this kid as a player. I would love to draft him. But if the Panthers did take him, I would hope that they ask him to get down to 255 by training camp. His versatility is what makes him special and the heavier he is, the less versatile he becomes.

I get Urlacher vibes from that guy. But I agree, 270 is a bit concerning.

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51 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

Smitty was a whole different level of player.  He was “small,” but pound for pound he was the best WR in all of football.  You can’t really compare these new guys to that, it’s just unfair to them haha.  No one will compare to 89.  

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9 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

The Zaven Collins weight is worrisome IMO. He is a phenomenal upright player and plays well in space. But he is officially being looked at as a tweener at 270. Normally, a tweener would be because of the in-between of size, but in his case he IS the size of a DE but he PLAYS like a linebacker. Maybe looking at Anthony Barr as a model to follow is the best way to figure out who he can be.

Personally, I LOVE this kid as a player. I would love to draft him. But if the Panthers did take him, I would hope that they ask him to get down to 255 by training camp. His versatility is what makes him special and the heavier he is, the less versatile he becomes.

Saw an interview with him and liked him immediately.  Alpha type dude.  I think he will end up being really good.

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21 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

The Zaven Collins weight is worrisome IMO. He is a phenomenal upright player and plays well in space. But he is officially being looked at as a tweener at 270. Normally, a tweener would be because of the in-between of size, but in his case he IS the size of a DE but he PLAYS like a linebacker. Maybe looking at Anthony Barr as a model to follow is the best way to figure out who he can be.

Personally, I LOVE this kid as a player. I would love to draft him. But if the Panthers did take him, I would hope that they ask him to get down to 255 by training camp. His versatility is what makes him special and the heavier he is, the less versatile he becomes.

Levon Kirkland played around 270 at a stud level ILB for the Steelers 

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