Panthers are trading LB Denzel Perryman to the Las Vegas Raiders

[Tbe]

7 hours ago, CanePantherHornet said:

 

 

This dude is going off right now claiming that players have anonymously contacted him claiming that Rhule is "running things like a dictator" and basically insinuating that the players hate him.

As opposed to the more democratically run teams? Which teams are those exactly?

[Scott12345]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Underrated comment. The upside is that we see how quickly we are able to switch gears(look at the Teddy trade). The downside is that we keep making these terrible signings.

I hope that our 2022 free agent offseason is a big upgrade because 2021 has been pretty bad so far.

Reddick jones Arnold Fox could all be major impact players for us

and the LB from cinch or bouye 

and we don’t know what we have in the two OL yet

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Scott12345

[LinvilleGorge]

9 hours ago, Dragoon11 said:

Dude, really? Just for the record, I'm "vaxxed"... but do we REALLY need to turn this into political diatribe? His reason for getting traded had not one thing to do with that. Respect peoples "free" choice and free will in life, what else do we have? It's no one's fault this crap was thrust upon the world; it's tough for everyone! Haven't we had enough of being political pawns? I'd love to just enjoy a NORMAL NFL season!!

We'll see how many of y'all are crying about muh freedoms and respecting choices if/when NFL teams have to start forfeiting games due to COVID outbreaks.

[KillerKat]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We'll see how many of y'all are crying about muh freedoms and respecting choices if/when NFL teams have to start forfeiting games due to COVID outbreaks.

"It's my right to infringe on your health. Respect my decision to take away your freedom"

[OldhamA]

9 hours ago, Dragoon11 said:

Dude, really? Just for the record, I'm "vaxxed"... but do we REALLY need to turn this into political diatribe? His reason for getting traded had not one thing to do with that. Respect peoples "free" choice and free will in life, what else do we have? It's no one's fault this crap was thrust upon the world; it's tough for everyone! Haven't we had enough of being political pawns? I'd love to just enjoy a NORMAL NFL season!!

You're kidding yourself if you think him being unvaccinated wasn't a factor.

As I understand it he's the only guy on the roster - and he makes us liable if we have a COVID outbreak. 

Being a Canes fan I'm very disappointed with Perryman, but the writing was on the wall. 

[kungfoodude]

45 minutes ago, Scott12345 said:

Reddick jones Arnold Fox could all be major impact players for us

and the LB from cinch or bouye 

and we don’t know what we have in the two OL yet

 

Yeah, hence the "so far." I think it will really depend on the OL and Darnold. If those guys flop, it will likely tank anything that the others can do. 

Like I said, though, we seem to be quick to learn and adjust so I am a lot more okay with these flops than a Hurney or Gettleman flop signing. We were saddled with those for years and sometimes for vast sums of money(Kalil). 

With these guys, it is almost a point for improvement rather than a franchise altering mistake.

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

You're kidding yourself if you think him being unvaccinated wasn't a factor.

As I understand it he's the only guy on the roster - and he makes us liable if we have a COVID outbreak. 

Being a Canes fan I'm very disappointed with Perryman, but the writing was on the wall. 

Yep. We're razor thin at LB. Even with his injury struggles, I doubt we would've been willing to trade him for practically nothing if it wasn't for the added complication of him being unvaccinated.

[KSpan]

8 hours ago, Santee_Panther said:

True, but year 2 of a rebuild not the time for big FA spending.

Reddick (OLB, $6mil, 1 year)

Erving (OG, $10mil total over 2 years)

Moore (WR, $4.8 mil over 2 years)

Elflein (T/G, $13mil over 3 years)

Fox (DT, $8mil over 2 years)

Jones (DT, $4mil 1 yr)

Bouye (CB, $7mil over 2 Years)

Arnold (TE, $7mil over 2 years)

Perryman (MLB, $6mil over 2 years)

 

Starters out of that group? Reddick, Bouye, maybe one of the DTs? Perhaps Arnold and maybe one of those OLs? Not a bad hit rate. Pretty low risk signings here. 
 

Draft strong, re-sign solid players. Fill in the gaps with inexpensive short term deals. 

I'm not calling out Fitterer per se, was just making the comment. I do think thoguh it's a bit worse though given the attention that the OL and LB corps needed heavy attention and that all of the FA additions in those areas haven't look good, with Perryman already gone entirely. Fortunately, the 2 drafted OL are showing some promise..

[OldhamA]

5 minutes ago, KSpan said:

I'm not calling out Fitterer per se, was just making the comment. I do think thoguh it's a bit worse though given the attention that the OL and LB corps needed heavy attention and that all of the FA additions in those areas haven't look good, with Perryman already gone entirely. Fortunately, the 2 drafted OL are showing some promise..

You haven't seen Erving or Elflein play yet. Get back to me after 4 games. 

[CPcavedweller]

This says, to me, that we are trading for Jalyn Smith from the Cowboys. They took Micah Parsons, who I wish we would've taken rather than Horn. To have a franchise capable QB and QB of the defense again. 

[KSpan]

5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

You haven't seen Erving or Elflein play yet. Get back to me after 4 games. 

Again, I'm not making definitive statements. The difference with FA though and particularly the guys signed is that there is already extensive film on them. Expectations can be reasonably set and thus far they're right on par with those performance-based expectations, which were fairly low.

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

This says, to me, that we are trading for Jalyn Smith from the Cowboys. They took Micah Parsons, who I wish we would've taken rather than Horn. To have a franchise capable QB and QB of the defense again. 

Tough to say right now--if Horn becomes a shut down who can take the beast WRs in this conference and keep the #1s in check, he is worth more than Parsons, who had some leadership issues at PSU if I interpreted the article correctly. 

But yeah, we need a beast MLB and the draft in 2022 is not loaded at MLB.

[mbarbour21]

11 hours ago, DJ feed me moore said:

so we traded greg little + perryman and about 2 million in dead cap for a 6th. Straight. rivera and co would have just cut both and gotten nothing + the cap hit

No. Rivera and Co. would have played them both all year.

[Peon Awesome]

Hell if we were the ones trading the 6th for a 7th, I'd have understood it. We're saving $1 million relative to cutting him while getting rid of a guy who hasn't seen the field because he apparently gets injured as soon as someone breathes on him. And between the arrest and unvaccinated status, he's only brought negative attention. Turning a 7th into a 6th might not be much but given the circumstances, it's a damn coup.